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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    The evidence Amillennialists have brought to the table is detailed, rock-solid, irrefutable, accurate and totally compelling. Your rebuttals have consisted of evasive replies, personal opinion, unfounded speculation and wild unsubstantiated claims. Having nothing of evidential worth to present...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    2 Peter 3:3-13: “there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of His coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Oh, so I am now "spiritually blind"? It's clear: when you cannot attack the message, you attack the messenger. This is your modus operandi. You've been doing it for years. Your passive aggressive aggressive approach is grievous to watch. Your bitterness is eating you away, not me. I couldn't...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Another problem (of many) you have is, you do not understand what Amils believe, or you are trying to deliberately lie. One thing that is a pattern is, you normally throw out the "Replacement Theology" false charge when you are beat. So, who do you think the Amils think that they have...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Due to the overwhelming irrefutable evidence presented, you have finally (albeit reluctantly) confirmed my thesis: that early Chiliasm and modern Premil has only one tenet in common - the belief in a future thousand years. It doesn't seem to matter to you that Chiliasm anticipated a perfect and...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Not true - another deliberate and bitter misrepresentation of Amils. How about addressing what I wrote? You are obviously struggling to get any holes in my position. You did not address one single point I made. Your rebuttal simply hurls insults at Amils (something you do often) and misrepresent...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    You have a lovely way with words. Obviously you are very frustrated due to your failure to furnish us with any evidence here, but there is not need for the vicious rhetoric. This is all spiritual! The physical political focus you place on ethnic Israel is wrong. Christ highlighted that the...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Where in Rom 11 did Paul teach "the ultimate restoration of Israel, a full political national salvation, replete with spiritual renewal. The majority of Israel will become Christians, and the glorified Church in heaven will safeguard Christianity on the earth for a thousand years"? It is time...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    The two verses that go before Acts 1:6 (relating to the disciples’ question) support the idea of a spiritual kingdom. The two verses that follow Acts 1:6 (relating to the disciples’ question) show the Lord giving a spiritual response to their question. Before the question came Christ was...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Not true! There is nothing here, and nothing there. You know it! The reader knows it! There has been nothing on this thread. This is your form: make the big claims, but fail to carry through with the hard evidence. This only serves to confirm the Op. For that I am grateful. That is why I...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    This is the final death throes of your argument. You have nothing and you know. If you had something you would present it. Your online teachers and mentors have misled you. They have left you holding the baby. You have finally admitted what has been obvious since the start of this thread: you...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Stop ducking the issue. There is nothing here to support your claims. Quote the text, instead of imposing your error upon it. Where in Acts 1 did Jesus teach "the ultimate restoration of Israel, a full political national salvation, replete with spiritual renewal. The majority of Israel will...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    How about telling the truth? If this is so: identify each post that you answered these. I will not hold my breath. The objective observer will see that you are lying again. The reason is: early Chiliasm was a completely different animal to modern Premil. It was more akin to Amil on most of its...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    It is obvious that you realize you have zero support from the ECFs right up until AD 240. Your failure to present one single quote to support all the main tenets of Premil apart from one (a future thousand years, albeit Chiliasts believed it will be a perfect age, unlike your rerun of our...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Commodianus Africa (wrote between AD 251 and 258) The Instructor On Christian Discipline XXXVII. The Fanatics Who Judaize. What! Are you half a Jew? will you be half profane? Whence you shall not when dead escape the judgment of Christ. You yourself blindly wander, and foolishly go in among...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Here we ago again! You keep presenting these lies whilst ducking around these requests for biblical evidence. 1. When did Jesus teach "the ultimate restoration of Israel, a full political national salvation, replete with spiritual renewal. The majority of Israel will become Christians, and...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    It is a subject I am studying and writing on, but far from my focus. My overwhelming focus as a Christian is the Word of God. That is where i find multiple support for Amil.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    It is obvious that you realize you have zero support from the ECFs right up until AD 240. Your failure to present one single quote to support all the main tenets of Premil apart from one (a future thousand years, albeit Chiliasts believed it will be a perfect age, unlike your rerun of our...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    These movements towards the Amil position by you are obviously welcomed. However, it seems like you will change whatever view you possess in order to agree with Chiliasm, which, whilst encouraging, demonstrates how fluid and changeable your views are. Honest end-time observers will know that the...