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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Premils do not believe that Satan, sin and death are destroyed at the second coming. That is deceitful for you to claim that. They believe the devil is only bound when Jesus comes, whereupon he is thrown into a bottomless pit. After 1000 years he is able to engineer the greatest uprising in...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    No we do not agree, neither do the early Chiliasts agree with you Justin Martyr: [T]he serpent that sinned from the beginning, and the angels like him, may be destroyed, and that death may be contemned, and for ever quit, at the second coming of the Christ Himself (Dialogue with Trypho...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    You attribute to 1000 years after the second coming of Jesus what these writers clearly and repeatedly related to our Lord's return. This is a totally misrepresentation of the facts. I suspect you know that. After all, you have been doing this for so long. It has become your MO. It doesn't seem...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    The Premil founding fathers Cerinthus and Marcion had a similar distain for the "allegorical system of interpretation." In fact, Marcion: "prohibited allegorical interpretations of the scripture." So, you are in good company.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Exactly, where is it in the text?
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Here you go again! You make so many sweeping statements without being able to back it up with hard evidence. That applies to both Scripture and history. When did Jesus teach "the ultimate restoration of Israel, a full political national salvation, replete with spiritual renewal. The majority...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Neither the Scriptures teach, or the early Chiliasts taught, "Israel's ultimate conversion at the Coming of Christ." That is a man-made invention that you cling to. The historic detail I presented is water-tight. Your avoidance of the bulk of the evidence is testimony to its veracity.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Most modern Premillennialists advocate the same (or similar) beliefs promoted by the early Premillennialist heretics, which anticipated a future earthly messianic kingdom where ethnic Israel is restored to her ancient privileged status, she retakes her Old Testament borders, her theocracy is...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Ok, can you address the historic data above?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No. You force NHNE and last days passages into Rev 20 because you have no millennial passages. Isaiah 65 describes the perfect eternal state. This exposes the Premil hermeneutics for what they are - ad-hoc, questionable and bias.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There is no mention of a millennium in this passage, but all Premils live in denial because they have nothing else to support their error. They claim new heaven and new earth and last days passages relate to their imaginary future millennium, all the time they have zero corroboration for their...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Instead of always advocating what you imagine, address Scripture. Address what I presented. Your avoidance is getting old.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Premils are nice people, aren't they? Everyone is blind that does not agree with them. Thanks for the chat.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Does your mum know you are online?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why are you so vicious and bitter with your language? Your writings are hard to read.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are totally contradicting yourself again. You espouse 7000 years of time. Well, your theory falls apart in Rev 20, because this disallows Satan's little season. You duck around that major contradiction. You have to!
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is a total red herring. Who said Scripture said that? This only occurs at the second coming. This is another deflection from the facts presented. All the rest is spiritualizing away God's literal truth. You reinforce my thesis in the Op: (6) Many testify that they are Premillennial...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That is contrary to the Bible. You have to reject so much Scripture to get your doctrine to fit. Jesus said in Matthew 24:35-44: “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as...