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This is getting old. No high horse, just sharing historic facts that are (granted) uncomfortable for you to digest. I am still waiting for you to show me where my thesis is inaccurate.

That is what most Premils do with the literal passages in Scripture.

Wrong again! Where is your factual detailed rebuttal? Where are your historic quotes? Where is your is your research? Nowhere! That is the issue. There is nothing but your private opinions and dependence upon Thomas Ice (the main advocate of Pretrib error in this nation).

Christ speaking in the gospel that the Dispensationalists say was written solely to the Jews – Matthew – confirms how the term ekklesia was related to the gathering of God’s people in His day, rather than some post-Pentecost New Testament period of time, as some would try and argue. Jesus said...

Not so. Your rants and ad-hominem have been there from the start. You are doing your best to derail. You have no historic quotes to bring to the table, only quotes from Thomas Ice. This is the classic Premil response to the historic data.

Direct Thomas Ice here and we will see which position is solid.

No. I do not come to debate with any old questionable website that cannot respond to me. I have never done that. I come to interact with posters on the subject at hand. You hide behind outside links because you do not have the interest or discipline to do the donkey work, yet, you always present...

This is all a distraction away from the subject at hand. Where are your historic quotes?

Where does it say this in Rev 20 - your only text that mentions the millennium?

LOL. I am refuting your false opinions, ignorance of the subject, and dependence upon (discredited) Thomas Ice. You do not like that, but it is spot on. So far, you have brought no historic quotes to the table to rebut the Op. The Op remains unchallenged, apart from you quoting Thomas Ice, who i...

Please know: "those who are really interested" need hard evidential facts, something your posts on the ECFs are totally devoid of. You depend upon Thomas Ice for your material. What is more, you depend on ad-hominem and derailing tacts to distract the subject. That says it all! I rest my case!

Facts are stubborn things! What i present is the conclusion of years of study that were instigated by reading many dubious claims that could not be supported by historic evidence. That is why I studied it for myself. I wanted to see what the facts were. What I am presenting is hard actual...

My aim is not to insult, but enlighten. Christians need to know their history, not the fake news being presented by Dispies about Church history. I have no issue with people challenging what I write. What i object to is you parading yourself as an authority on the ECFs when you have not studied...

If you want anyone to take your rebuttals serious, then present actual hard ancient historic evidence. Give us quotes that the early writers and the early heretics made. But you cannot go there because you have not researched this. You do not know what they believe, apart from what you have read...

That is not true. The context of the passage in view is basically comparing the dark hopeless condition the Gentiles found themselves in before the cross to the liberated enlightened position those Gentiles who embraced Christ were after the cross. The believing Gentile has been given favor...

What is this citizenship? It is plainly and unambiguously identified in the reading as “the citizenship of Israel.” God did not create a new Israel; the Gentiles were grafted into an existing organism. Ephesians 2:19 shows that faithful Gentiles are “no more strangers and foreigners” (as in...

Solomon declared in Ecclesiastes 3:11: “He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.” Would an objective Christian question the meaning of “the beginning” and “the...

Exactly! This is the basis of your scholarly response. This is totally unacceptable. Ice has been long-disproved for his writings. They are bias, untrustworthy and unobjective. But the cat is out of the box now. This is who appeals to you and who satisfies your ECF curiosity. This is what you...

Everything you have claimed so far on this thread has been refuted. All you are left with now is your bias and inaccurate Premil websites. That is your default system every time we discuss this subject. That is all you have. Your repeated admission over the years that you have not examined...

That is all you have to bring to the table - insults and taunts. You have nothing of historic value. This is obviously your filibuster tactic. Oh, and also, your trustworthy authoritative historian - Thomas Ice. This just about sums up the Premil rebuttal on this thread in a nutshell.