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Hello! I do not simply work from links. I work from books and reading through online ancient docs. That is why i gave the references. I am not going to do the work for you. Take the time and you will find it. I have showed you where.

This is so wrong, and such a political answer. The reality is: we have become citizens of Israel. You refuse to say which Israel. It seems like you are suggesting ethnic Israel, which is absurd. You are going to have to dig yourself out of this massive hole, of your own making. All you need now...

The reader can observe for themselves the multiple Scriptures, points and posts that have been sidestepped by yourself. That is the only way you can sustain your argument. These expose the Premil theory.

Totally, totally, wrong! We were grafted into an already existing spiritual entity - the good olive tree, the flock of God, which represents remnant elect believing Israel. This was alive and active in the OT, and is still alive. What changed was that it was expanded out to the nations after the...

I actually articulated what most Premils believe.

Speak for yourself. You have no direct rebuttals to challenge the Op.

He has dug himself a hole and cannot get out of it. It is frankly ridiculous to suggest this.

Oh. So we Gentiles have joined the citizenship of ethnic Israel? Where do we apply for the passports?

Read the evidence.

Open your eyes wide, take off your Premil glasses, and you will see it.

Where is your evidence? You come across as a wikipedia historian.

Where do Premils get their info? Heretics are "unbelievers."

I have detailed the references for anyone who wishes to dig. The Amillenial view was popular long before Augustine, and what is your evidence he was "quite the heretic himself"?

Who said it did? The blood of Jesus didn't change their ethnic status, it changed their spiritual state. Stop being so stubborn. Stop living in denial. They were aliens from "the commonwealth of Israel" but have now become "fellowcitizens."

Exactly! It is spiritual. We are the spiritual "uncircumcision."

What are you talking about? The cross had absolutely no effect on the Gentiles coming to some geographical "location" on this earth, and "not spiritual status." That is absolutely ridiculous. Where did you get that from? I never heard anything so silly. You are definitely on the ropes bro. It is...

LOL. You are unbelievable. Embrace the text, even if it exposes everything you have been taught. Let me help your obvious reading difficulty: Ephesians 2:12-13 declares, “ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth (politeia or citizenship) of Israel, and strangers from the...

Finally, you have realized that you disagree with "both" Romans 2 and my interpretation of Romans 2. At least i respect your honesty. You are living in denial in regards to the Gentiles being described as "the circumcision" because it demolishes your error. You are now refusing to quote the...

We are fellow citizens of what nation? Is it physical or spiritual nation? What "new commonwealth" are Gentiles believers are members of?

How can you say that? You are fighting what the text is expressly saying. Ephesians 2:11-19 declares, “Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye...