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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Satan is released from the abyss near the end in Revelation 20:7. The release of Satan at the end from the abyss restriction (Revelation 9:1-11 and Revelation 20:7) corresponds with the beast also rising from the abyss (Revelation 11:7 and Revelation 17:8) and also the many fallen angels...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am seeing a pattern in your posts (that is common with Premils): you do not address the text in view, you do not address the counter-points, you do not provide corroboration, and you do not answer my questions. It is all one way! Notwithstanding, I will address your argument. Many...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Israel was blessed with the Word of God for centuries. But the Gentile nations of the earth were in wholesale darkness, with the odd rare exception. They were ignorant of God’s truth. They were without knowledge of Christ. They basically could not call upon One they did not know. Before the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This proves nothing! John was simply shown a number of parallel visions one after the other, all culminating in the climactic coming of Christ. Each parallel concentrate on the same time period and the symbolic ongoing events that occur throughout, viewing them from slightly different camera...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Again you avoid the biblical text and keep presenting your beliefs. That is because to acknowledge the climactic detail of Revelation 19 would negate Premil. Premils have an issue with addressing the actual text and with finding corroboration. It is the Scriptures that confirm what we are...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Scripture often makes broad general sweeping statements. When Scripture tells us that the Gentiles would no longer be deceived it does not mean every single one of them, or even most of them, would be saved, just that the ignorance would be finally lifted from the darkened Gentiles. Isaiah...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Revelation 20:2 makes clear, "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years. And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations (ethnos) no more, till the thousand...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The 1st place you err is in thinking that Revelation 20 is chronological in time to Revelation 19. It is not. Revelation is a series of recaps covering the intra-Advent period and culminating the the glorious climactic return of Jesus Christ. Revelation 19 is depiction of that one-and-only final...
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    You need to first realize the meaning of the word "rule" to understand what it is saying. It actually means to shepherd. That occurs at the coming of Christ where the Shepherd divides the sheep from the goats. Nowhere in Rev 20 does it show Jesus reigning with a rod of iron. That is a Premil...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I presented the Op. I did not limit the discussion to one chapter. That is Premil. They only have one string to their guitar. I have been covering multiple passages that support Amil. This tactic reinforces the Op.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are not going to tell me what to do. I will do what is right. Your attitude here has been wrong. When that changes i will reassess.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    He is like a dog on a chain. Satan is powerless to do certain things today. • Satan is powerless to do what he wants to do. • He is powerless to stop the Church of Jesus Christ spreading the good news of Gospel throughout the nations. • He is powerless to stop someone coming to Christ...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Read what is in the text rather than what you want it to say. 1 Peter 5:8 says: “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” The very next verse 1 Peter 5:9 affirms, “whom resist stedfast in the faith.” The true Church...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Totally agree! It is nonsensical.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Totally not true! This is fake Premil news! Jesus said Revelation 3:21: “I … overcame.” Revelation 5:5 tells us: “behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed.” The lion is known as the king of the jungle. It carries great authority and power. That is a very potent...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. The JWs, Mormons and Seventh Day Adventists are all Premil. Think about that. Along with Dispensationalism/Pretrib, this all was invented in the middle of the 18th century as a notable kick-back to the prevailing truth of God. I'm afraid your teachers have taught you wrong. Repeated...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Instead of making wild unsubstantiated claims, please tell me what Scripture /argument I have not addressed with you.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There is one literal first resurrection where Christ defeated the grave. The Bible makes it clear that Christ is "the first resurrection" (Acts 26:23 and Revelation 20:6), "the firstborn from the dead" (Colossians 1:18), "the firstfruits of them that slept" (1 Corinthians 15:20), "first begotten...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I totally disagree. You reinforce another point in the Op. I do not buy into the doom-and-gloom big-devil and small-impotent-Jesus theology of Premillennialism. I certainly do not agree with you that Jesus "sucks at running a kingdom." One of the problems I see today is: too many Christians are...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You have avoided post after post, argument after argument and Scripture after Scripture. Obviously you have nothing of evidential worth to bring to the table. If you had, you doubtless would. BTW, I am not Catholic, but solidly Reformed. What I am relaying to you was the standard truth of the...