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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Ok. So, why do you attribute detail pertaining to the NHNE in Isa 65 to your supposed future millennium when it relates to the eternal state (which is after the millennium)? Where in Revelation 20 does it say "there will be no more war, but there will be disputes, which Jesus will settle...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Matthew 12:22-29 records, “Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Is Satan a literal dragon? Yes or no? What are you talking about? When did I say you were deceived? Why do you always have to twist what I say? That is normally a sign that someone has no answer to the biblical facts: attack the messenger when you have no answer to the message.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am confused here. When does the NHNE arrive - before or after the millennium? Also, where do you get the above in Revelation 20? I do not see it.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Cerinthus The first promoter of what we know today as modern-day Premillennialism was Cerinthus who lived in the first century, who was strongly opposed by the early Christian Church. Cerinthus was from Western Asia Minor (now Turkey) and lived around A.D. 100. He was a shady individual who...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Where is you evidence? Why did you not address the questions I submitted. Every time you touch this subject you fail to furnish us with ancient facts and quotes, only your bias opinions. You have admitted in the past you have never researched this subject, yet you are the first to make wild...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    I don't waste my time with outside Premil links that are often as ignorant and prejudice on the subject as those challenging the thesis here. They simply repeat what they have been taught. Few take the time to research this in real depth. You advocate a zero corroborative theory. Your mistaken...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    But, please remember, the JWs and Mormons are Premils and Premil took off at the same time they arose.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Your teachers have taught you wrong. This is theological rantings. Where is you evidence? You have stated this, yet failed to provide one bit of evidence to support this. Please quote any ECF in the first 210 years after the cross that described sin existing on a future millennial earth? Please...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That is totally untrue! That is why you duck around the evidence when I present it from an Amil position. It blows apart your private interpretation. I will try for a 4th time to get you to acknowledge the climactic detail you have avoided, although I will not hold by breath. Revelation...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    If you are telling me the truth: present the post you did that on. I see nothing but fudging and avoidance.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, The depiction represents the devil and the spiritual restraint he has been under since the First Advent. But it was a dragon in this illustration (that represented Satan)...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Your Premil bias is obviously coloring your thinking. You advocate a zero corroborative theory. Your mistaken opinion of Revelation 20 enjoys no biblical support elsewhere. Where, outside of the highly symbolic setting of Revelation 20, did the Old Testament prophets, Jesus or the New Testament...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    So, you have now reduced Premil down to a one tenet doctrine. That is so convenient. This of course is ludicrous. Check any Premil posts here, any Premil website or any Premil writing and you will see the litany of errors they attach to the age to come. These were foreign to both the early...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Scripture forbids Premil. The early fathers knew nothing of what we have today with modern Premil, until hundreds of years after the cross. This is all strong and compelling evidence why it should be rejected. It is an extra-biblical theory.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Amen! Deception is rampant in the Premil millennium because there are countless people that reject Christ in their heart and are forced to give feigned worship in Jerusalem to Christ or they will be swiped with Christ's rod of iron? You have the greatest battle in history at the end of the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Interacting with him gives him credibility he doesn't deserve. I wouldn't waste my time. He is deliberately trying to inflame.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Isaiah 49:8-9 says, “Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages; That thou mayest say to the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Imprisonment and chains are constantly used in Scripture to describe spiritual restraint. This is seen in how the Holy Spirit depicts the wicked. For example, Satan is presented in Scripture as imprisoning his followers and refusing to release them from his spiritual prison. Psalms 79:10-11...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why are you angry? Just because you have no answer to the Amil arguments doesn't need you need to be nasty and insulting.