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An observation. Most who have participated in this discussion are in favor of Eternal torment. Seriously... Actually in favor. Not just agreeing with the doctrine, but actually morally and intellectually approving and supporting the concept as a just and terrific way to solve the problem of...

The scripture actually says that God's Son became a man.

So because several of us here are Adventists,, therefore being a cult according to your definition, we are not Christians. So correct church membership now is a criteria for salvation? But only with YeshuaFan's approval?

Yes, interesting questions. Once your wells are drilled and business operating, how do you walk away without leaving behind a lot of collateral damage? Its like leaving Afghanistan. There are very real Afghani people on the ground there that have come to depend upon a military presence to...

Love your avatar by the way. Yes, its a sad indictment against a nation that purports to support freedom. And as a look around the world I see a history of this colonialist greedy avaricious resource theft. The Spanish and Portuguese in South and central America with gold. The British in South...

You don't think death without hope of a resurrection is eternal?

To Capture and Subdue: America’s Theft of Syrian Oil Has Very Little To Do With Money - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

Gets awkward around here with so many who hate a particular part of it. Although no-one would admit that.

Can he plead the fifth?

? I saw nothing for which an apology was necessary.

You could quote many more similarly worded scriptures and the weight of evidence in your favor would still be offset by those with a penchant for dissecting leaves to distract from the forest.

I think many would like our errors to reside in both what we teach officially and unofficially. Historically not all Adventists have expressed our true teachings regarding law and obedience with the rectitude such a topic demands. Me Included.

@amadeus I left Catholicism for similar reason as yourself. I knew nothing of doctrine. After meeting Jesus I naturally gravitated back to the only church I knew... The Catholic. I went twice. I spoke briefly to the priest at the end of the second service. I simply shared with him my recent...

Mmm. God forbid that anyone would observe a commandment because they love Him right?

Yes, we teach righteousness by faith. But there are many of us who become a little bow legged and awkward when walking that line that others place between grace and obedience.

Yeah, that legalism. Even Ellen White herself said categorically that there are genuine Christians in every denomination, and Catholicism wasn't an exception.

I am delighted you have a spiritual home and have peace in your relationship with Jesus. May God bless your ministry

Sure. And who would deny them that right. Yet those clubs and organisations had a purpose, and that purpose was better accomplished through organised effort. For example the Surf life saving club I was a member of for many years. Me to. Absolutely.

It saddens me seeing elderly people walking parks wearing masks. 20 meters away from anyone else, often out of sight of anyone else walking, the masks remain. Fear. An elderly gentleman mowing his nature strip beside the road. Masked. People walking alone with no-one else in sight. Masked...

Had a bit of a storm last night. Lasted about an hour and knocked trees down everywhere. Sadly 3 people killed by fallen branches. Power was just turned back on after 26 hours. No wifi. Praise God for Noah's flood... We had gas. All this on top of curfews and lockdowns and masks etc etc etc. Oh...