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Another awesome thing is to realize that even if you have a good memory, if the Holy Spirit has spoken through you...the memory of what is said is somehow more dim and fleeting than other memories. Just awesome - confirming, actually!

Have I not answered you in post #27?

The scriptures are great, but during these times of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit foretold by Joel the prophet and confirmed by Jesus and Peter...we should be asking - no, more than asking - we should be expecting more in accordance with the question that Jesus asked: Matthew 23:17 "Fools...

God validated Himself by His presence and by His word. I know His voice. But this is not about what I know...now you have made it about what you do not believe.

Nice try, but I have already established that "none are righteous." So, if you want to prove that every church father is righteous in their roll as leaders in the church and in complete agreement to the real presence doctrine...it's on you. I say again - they all are not.

You don't know me, and you are assuming my testimony is like that of others. But I am assuming nothing. I did not grow up under any religious tutelage, but in the life that God designed for me, I cried out to Him and He answered. I was immediately caught up above the earth in the presence of...

No...but I take your word for it...because it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean their testimony was that of a leader. Many leaders were followers, not of Christ, but of men. I suspect that is the case even with yourself. For me, it's not. But that is not the point...only the apostles can say...

@epostle

No.

I have just overturned every point you have made, while you do the very things you accuse me of. I will not be answering you anymore. Perhaps I will wave through the smoke of your demise.

That is not biblical. The scriptures tell us that the physical body "returns to the earth as it was" and that "both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up." But here you are propagating a lie. "Another prot-cult satanic lie?" Perhaps.

Don't you have an 'ism for someone who imagines all of what you just said? Actually, it's not that big of a mystery: Technically (even scientifically) speaking, matter is energy, and the seen (visible) world is light divided from darkness. What's there to deny?

I know.

Another name-caller's 'ism I will have to look up to understand and to know what some people think of those who have been born again of the spirit of God, caught up above the earth in the revelations of the the Lord.

Jesus [had] a physical body.

I was quoting you using "spiritualizing" as a bad word. The point is...spiritualizing is the most godly thing that could be done, the very thing that God is doing for the salvation of His children. And you don't like it so much you use it as criticism.

Again, this very thing occurred with Israel, and was explained by Christ in Matthew 23. Such leaders are indeed held accountable. But you are then assuming also that the martyrs were those same offenders, when they are not. Is every leader in the church a martyr? Certainly not. They may have...

You insult me to say that apparently I am not smart enough to know Jesus from God. But they are One, "the Word became flesh", "I am" (His words, not mine). Your technical understanding is greatly lacking.

Apparently you don't remember speaking against God whom is spirit, as you did below. So here it is again: ...Obviously, the "EVIL insults" and "lies" are yours.

Nonetheless, if His words are spirit (as He said), then it is not the words that take precedence, but the spirit of God. This was at the heart of everything Jesus taught. Matthew 23:19 "Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift?"