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  1. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Touché? Reading into unitarian text trinitarian doctrine, inferring, and NOT doing this, but only what is explicitly stated, is not the same. It is the opposite. Also, I noticed you again just ignore explicit verses cited that destroy the trinity. Too bad you don’t have the courage to...
  2. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    There is only one God, aka the LORD, aka the Father. God is Spirit and his Spirit is holy. This does not mean a distinct ‘person’ was "hovering over the deep". Notice how you are equating this verse by inserting ‘Holy Spirit’ with trinitarianism. Such desperate reaching to infer what is not...
  3. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Yes, what in the world makes you think this has anything to do with Jesus - or the trinity? In fact, this disproves the trinity since no mention of the HS.
  4. Wrangler

    Questions for OSAS deniers.

    Never read Hebrews where it talks about how there is no sacrifice for those who spurn the sacrifice of Jesus once accepted? No. Many people go longer periods of time than a day being damned, self-incriminated. To answer your questions directly, Scripture is explicit; blasphemy against the...
  5. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    1. Demonstrably untrue! Jesus died. Jehovah did not die. 2. Logically untrue! X and the Son of X are not and cannot be one in the same. 3. Scripturally untrue! Jesus said God was greater than he, knows more than he and is the only true God. If Jesus' Father is the only true God, then Jesus...
  6. Wrangler

    Jesus is Dead

    Curtis, please don't hijack this thread. This thread is about how an atheist does not see Christ living in his followers - and us trying to reach him. Feel free to open a new thread to condemn @Aunty Jane for going about Christ's work differently from the way you prefer. Thanks!
  7. Wrangler

    Jesus is Dead

    Gandhi said words to that affect. "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
  8. Wrangler

    Rejection of God mostly because of....

    So true! On another website an Eastern Orthodox Christian was finally banned for intolerance. No matter what the thread topic was about, he connected it to how Protestant heretics are not going to infiltrate the one true church and he found clever and vicious ways of attacking all that...
  9. Wrangler

    Jesus is Dead

    @I.O.U, how can I pray for you to have peace and live joyfully day by day even though we live in a fallen world were everyone from every race, tribe and tongue has fallen short of the mark?
  10. Wrangler

    Jesus is Dead

    Not really related to the OP is it? In any event, you are totally wrong. Read about Christian transformation and a New Creation, which means we have a changed, divine nature. Make a blessed day!
  11. Wrangler

    Jesus is Dead

    Friend, you clearly have an axe to grind. 'Nature made me function' is a cop out, a failure to take responsibility for your choices. Nature requires you to breath, eat, eject waste. It does not compel you to rape, steal or degrade. Make a blessed day.
  12. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    I just read the NSRV Cultural Bible Article on this. It says many things included the expression means ‘one who causes others to come into being.’ In other words, the Creator. Before giving his name, YHWH, he tells Moses what action he takes, what he does. Fascinating.
  13. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Again proving how trinitarianism does NOT produce the Fruit of the Spirit.
  14. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Another lap on an obviously absurd claim. Even if true, 2 a trinity does not make.
  15. Wrangler

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Angelina, both are verbs, which are, by definition, action words. True the action of believing is internal, it is a requirement to salvation. That is, unless universalism is correct doctrine. I've observed many advocate a contradiction on this point. You must believe in Jesus. No work on your...
  16. Wrangler

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Agreed. Believing/Faith MUST be a work because otherwise, universalism would be correct doctrine. Hope this helps.
  17. Wrangler

    Good health

    Praying for you. In today's sermon in a series on Worry, the pastor talked about us needing to have an EVEN IF faith and referenced Daniel 3:16-18. We have a good and faithful God EVEN IF our worst fears come true. Amen? This is the day that the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in...
  18. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Indoctrinated idolator is the more precise term I prefer over 'lying.' :oops: But if you insist ... Then it is you you are lying because the Lord Jesus said he was going to his God, that his Father is the only true God and in Rev 1:1, God - in his unitarian nature - gave the resurrected...
  19. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    First, last and only God, YHWH. Amen? But Scripture does say over and over and over again that there is only one God, the Father. He is the first, last and only God. Don't pretend Keiw's not formatting a Scriptural reference weakens his point. Keiw is not quoting Scripture but talking about...
  20. Wrangler

    How Do You Understand Christ Being First Fruits?

    1 Corinthians 15:23 says Christ is the first fruits and I was wondering how you understand that? First implies the beginning of a series of like. For instance, one does not say someone is their 'first' child when, in fact, the child is their only child.