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Ah. I see. So you believe what Paul said but you don't believe what Jesus said. IOW, Jesus made mistakes when speaking. He didn't really mean what He said. He figured to wait till after He died and was resurrected and THEN give Paul the message... rather than to just tell the people Himself...

P.S. Re the being sealed. Jesus never said we are sealed forever. We are sealed for as long as we have the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit seals us. No Holy Spirit..........no sealing.

I agree.

When did I use the term "believer" loosely? I've been here 3 days and you know all about me already? Show me a post...

Hi Oz, If Jesus is ONLY human, then we've been worshipping a false god and breaking commandment no. 1 - the one, if not persued - makes all the rest of no consequence. Thomas was with Jesus over three years. He doubted, as many men would. Who had ever heard of a dead man coming back to life...

There are no words when a child dies. We must trust God and know that one day we will be together again. To us it seems like a long time, but happily to those in heaven it is as a day! Joy will come one morning.

There's much misunderstanding about the sealing in the Holy Spirit. It makes it sound as if we STAY sealed NO MATTER WHAT. This cannot be if we're to believe the rest of scripture and what Jesus taught. I knew Jesus never said this because He never taught it. If you do a quick study on what...

1. I'm allowed to notice when a Christian isn't acting Chistianly. Mathew 18:16-18 2. It's meet, not meat. I don't have a side, yet - but it'll come up eventually. 3. You think everyone wants to be important, of course you realize that this means YOU want to be important. 4. I know the...

Hi Aspen... How do you like this.... In religion, man is attempting to reach God. In Christianity, God is reaching man and he has but to respond. The dictionary meaning of religion would agree with you, but so many " religious" persons do not know God. I like to say that I'm not very...

Oz Is that you? I'm Wondering if it's you?!!

Ok I'll try you... I don't see the difference. WHERE did Jesus say all believers are sealed?? And if I'm a believer, why wouldn't I get into heaven?

Hi Stranger, WHERE did JESUS say all who believe are sealed? I don't remember Jesus ever saying this.

Oh my goodness! I stand in defense of Wrigley. Did you notice he comes from a different country? How fast can YOU take offense! If you can't even understand persons FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY, HOW could you ever even HOPE to understand how people spoke over 2,000 years ago??? Be nice.

Please tell me you didn't just say that. Or if you did, maybe you'd care to explain it?

Tried clicking on them The upper one brings me to the very top of this pages' posts. The bottome one brings me to the very end of this pages' posts. I guess I'll figure it out eventually....

You mean those Arrow things to the right of the screen? BTW, THANK YOU. :)

If the button is INVISIBLE HOW am I supposed to SEE IT???????????????? uffa.

Where's BoL when you need him? OK. I'll take this one. First of all the Pope is not called what you state, or at least, he's not meant to be. I found this on Wikipedia: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Vicarius Filii Dei (Latin: Vicar or Representative of the Son of God) is a phrase...

This is a de ja vu. Didn't we already say this to each other? I remember that I didn't care to answer in an open forum.

Wrigley, I think he meant "you" in general. We in the states do this... It's not good, I do it too sometimes... It's wrong, however: it should be: "If ONE refuses to ....."