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From what I heard. It uses a more modern text to translate from. So according to the KJV only cult. it is flawed also. It is my prefered bible however

The op is about free will not predestination. So not sure what your upset about I believe what the bible says. We are predestined to be conformed to his image. we are predestined to be adopted as a son. And that we have received an inheritance, having been predestined.. Do you believe this?

Gotta love in when people claim that predestination is unbiblical. When the bible states predestination. It is how we interpret what it means we need to determine. Not the word itself

And I thought it was just me :)

Thanks But I would rather give my children and new believers they can read. Not one that they have to learn a new language in. Its to bad the KJV did not update itself to modern language, it would have been a great bible

Rest Your case? I never made an argument it should not be changed. I did the opposite. I said to look at context. Then said to look at the definition of the origional word. (my response was not even concerning that verse. it was about what happened at the cross) You should try to understand...

this is the issue I think A way to look at it is to look again at peter all of you repent, and let them be baptized Literally in the english this is what it would say it makes no sense when not taken in context. Who are "them"

What I believe they are saying, is the oldest manuscripts have the verses in question, the the supposed "added" words found in later documents are missing.

Not sure what you mean? Definition of words? Seismos;A shaking, Shock, An earthquake 1. A shock, Agitation, Commotion 2. Earthquake 3. To shake Agitate 4. To shake Heave, Quake of the earth 5. To move to and fro 6. To shake oneself If we are talking about water. Earthquake would not fit. I...

That’s right you only commit oopsie sins, pharisee at heart,

Have to be careful with that translation (new living), it is easy to read but full of errors, we tried to teach with it but kept having to go to NASB and Greek to correct the errors.

I forgot, you think Jesus did not pay for all sins, you think although we can pay for our past sins, we somehow can pay for future. as I said I did not delete them they are descriptive, gods people do that, non believers do not, it fits with John who said whoever sins has never seen or known...

the missing is not a condition, but a description, that’s if it is even origional, considering the same words are used a few verses after

Crazy?

I would say look at what is said rocks split and graves opened are signs of an earthquake not turmoil what’s your thoughts

Yes, but sadly, I bet most people will claim they added to the word,

Amen..the lamb of age who takes away the sin, he redeemed us in his blood. Water is a symbol of that which truly saves

Hiya Mary, I am great thank you Actually what I was saying is I made my case you made yours and we did not agree. You gave me your opinion I gave you mine. Its as simple as that. This is the second time you made an accusation that I did something with is just your OPINION. I did not throw...

Salvation has been by grace not works since Adam it saddens me people want to add works to the gospel. Basically saying the death of our lord is not enough