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Are you saying that the rabbis, with their various views, didn’t go by the prophets?

Thanks. I don’t agree with your “whole point.“ People are converted to Christianity. The unconverted sometimes see it for themselves when reading Isaiah 53; others are taught about Isaiah 53 before they become Christians. I’ve spoken with some Jews who have told me they see the messiah in...

I’ve shared with you how the 1st century Jews who believed Jesus is the messiah interpreted scripture. It has to do with their view of the unnamed coming messiah as the ideal representative of Israel. With that hermeneutic in mind, they saw in the life of one of their contemporaries a man who...

You’re spending an inordinate amount of time discussing it. That has my attention. “The common 21st century view of Messiah amongst religiously oriented Jews is someone who will usher in the coveted peace on earth that mankind has longed for since ancient times. Many religious Jews agree that...

“The rabbis failed to recognize one other possibility - that the Messiah was to atone for the sins of the people first and then return as the Exalted One to establish his kingdom. This view, of course, inevitably leads to Yeshua as the Messiah, a truth that escaped the rabbis of past and...

“A third solution is likewise found in the Babylonian Talmud. Here, the two different roles of Messiah are fulfilled in two different Messiah. The first one is Messiah ben Joseph who fights, suffers extreme humiliation, and is pierced, fulfilling Zechariah’s prophecy, ‘They shall look unto Me...

“A second explanation of the seemingly contradictory portrayals of Messiah as one both humiliated and exalted appears elsewhere in the Talmud: R. Alexandri said that R. Joshua bar Levi combined the two paradoxical passages; the one that says, ‘Behold, one like the Son of Man came with the...

“The rabbis also were aware the Tanach predicted that Messiah would be both humiliated and exalted. They tried to resolve this apparent contradiction in three different ways. The first possibility developed in the Talmud was that Messiah existed from before the creation of the world and came to...

No. You know it and I know it, but he doesn’t. He has a history of mental illness. If you search his threads you’ll find that he frequently speaks about it.

He says that he doesn’t have any.

I’d like to get to know and understand you better. Were you a denominational or nondenominational Christian? If denominational, which one?

I understand your sentiment but that’s not how I take his comment. I think he genuinely doesn’t see it in scripture. I know this will be hard for you to do, but try for a moment: throw away the New Testament. Pretend for a moment that it doesn’t exist and never did. If we can do that, we can...

See the NT interpreters. Jesus is seen by them as the Ideal Israel. Jesus, the messiah, is doing what Israel should have done but didn’t. The servant of God isn’t God himself. The servant of God is Israel / the messiah.

Not to detract from your point, but people are also capable of twisting the truth on their own. No sympathy for the devil, but sometimes I think we place blame on the devil when the blame is not deserved.

“If you leave a door open for temptation, you’ll certainly get a visit from the tempter.” - Garrett Kell

I was on X earlier this evening and saw this question being discussed: How old were you when you realized that you were going to die someday? The comments and accompanying stories were fascinating. I thought that perhaps it would make for an interesting topic on CB. So, how old were you when...

I’m currently reading Rashi, written by Elie Wiesel