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  1. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The point is that it doesn’t have to be. See, for example, the Septuagint.
  2. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    “D. The Concept of Power in the NT. 1. The Fact of Christ. Like all other NT concepts, the concept of power is given its decisive impress by the fact of Christ. This sheds a distinctive light on the use, adoption and development of existing views. We must start, therefore, with the fact of...
  3. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    This explains a great deal of what we find in Church history, both pre-Constantine and post-Constantine.
  4. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    All of Jesus’ followers / disciples before he was resurrected from the dead were Jews.
  5. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    What are you not getting? El gibbor doesn’t have to be translated “mighty God” in Isaiah 9:6. The translators had other options; options which would fit very well with the historic setting.
  6. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Constantine said several things that stand out to me. Here is one of them, following the Council of Nicaea - “Let us, then, have nothing in common with the Jews, who are our adversaries.” (Epistle of The Emperor To Those Bishops Who Were Not Present)
  7. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Many of them believed that their fellow Jew is the Messiah promised by his and their God. The Church in the 1st century was filled, almost exclusively, with them.
  8. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    You’re incorrectly framing the narrative. Now you’re being presumptuous. Your reason for having this discussion isn’t my reason for having this discussion. I’m claiming that Jesus’ belief is Jewish monotheism, so is mine, and that it is the answer.
  9. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    No. I’ve told you that Jesus himself is a Jewish monotheist and his monotheism is the answer. I share his belief.
  10. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    When I was a teenager I had a summer job working in a store. I remember the manager of the store telling me that once the customer has said yes my job was done. The identity of the one God isn’t changed in Jewish monotheism. That’s far beyond the Jewish monotheism of the Messiah.
  11. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    H410 - 'ēl - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (kjv) It tells us that the trinitarian translators had a choice to make, and in Isaiah 9:6 they made the choice which fits with their theological belief rather than the choice which fits the historical context.
  12. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    It has the answer.
  13. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    “Girls will be boys and boys will be girls it’s a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world” (Ray Davies)
  14. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    Not in Jewish monotheism.
  15. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    You didn’t pick up on my hint. That’s on me. Christ is God. Jewish monotheism is the key.
  16. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    I believe the MAKER is God called Yahweh, the God and Father of Jesus the Nazarene. o_O
  17. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    Labels. Society gone mad wants to do away with them.
  18. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    Whoever they are, we should all be able to agree that God is not a human being and the heavens and the earth were not created by a human being.
  19. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    I don’t believe the maker of creation is the created. I believe the maker of creation is the God and Father of Jesus. All human beings are created.
  20. Matthias

    Genesis : Trinity

    @Taken you don’t believe “for one second” that God is a human being. Neither do I. What about the trinitarians and the binitarians?