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A.D. 451. 451 - c. 30 = 421 years following the death, burial, resurrection and ascension of the man.

Jesus corrected the Pharisees (and practitioners of other sects of Judaism) in areas where they were mistaken. Christianity itself began as a sect of Judaism.

Surely. But do you agree with @Taken that “Jesus Himself IS the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit”?

If Chalcedon (known now as Kadikoy, a district of Istanbul, Turkey) doesn’t have a sign welcoming tourists to town then the Chamber of Commerce is asleep at the switch. Welcome to Chalcedon. Home of the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union.

If you’re interested in the history - and for those who are - Today in Christian History tweeted a few minutes ago: “#OTD October 22, 451 During the Fifth Session of the Council of Chalcedon, the final form of the Chalcedonian Creed was drafted. It became the Early Church’s highest and most...

To be forewarned is to be forearmed. forewarned is forearmed I’m going to use the “s” word in what follows @Behold - I’m going to be using the “t” word in what follows @ScottA - The trinitarian scholar Dr. Chris VanBuskirk (Lancaster Bible College) gives us a lesson on the “Classic Trinity”...

So you don’t agree with @Taken. I say Jesus is only one person. How many persons do you say Jesus is?

Do you agree with @Taken that “Jesus Himself is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit”?

Thanks. *** Jesus Himself IS the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit What say you to that @Behold? @ScottA? @farouk? @marks? @RLT63? I recognize what it is. Do you? Name that theology.

Today in Christian History tweet: “#OTD October 22, 1844 Between fifty thousand and one hundred thousand followers of Baptist lay preacher William Miller (Millerites) prepare for ‘The Day of Atonement’ - the day Jesus will allegedly return.”...

I think you saw a bird.

A true story, which I present here as an allegory. One day I was assigned to work in a very dangerous part of Atlanta. While carrying out my assignment, I was approached by an intoxicated woman who solicited me for prostitution. “No, ma’am,” I replied. “I’m a married man.” “I like married...

“These days, you’re likely to hear someone accuse a debate partner of ‘just arguing semantics,’ which, if you think about it, means their debate partner is ‘just arguing about meaning,’ which you would think is, like, the point of arguing in the first place? But in our modern vernacular, the...

I believe in only one God, but what you’re looking for is found in Church history. Dialogue of Origen with Heraclides and the Bishops with him concerning the Father and the Son and the Soul. “After the bishops present raised questions concerning the faith of Bishop Heraclides, that he might...

But do you believe Jesus himself is the Father?

o_O Your working premise is likely what riles them up. They don’t seem to mind that you reject their “Classic Trinity”. The key, it appears, is saying you believe in “Trinity” - the details never mattered historically to JAT. The details used to matter to their clergy. It still does matter...

Do you believe that Jesus himself is the Father?

I have Paul and the Holy Spirit and a New Testament. And that is all I want to know. They’re reading and reacting to your commentary [on the Bible and on them].

o_O I own dozens of them. Which translation do you recommend? Perhaps I already have it. o_O I’ve been reading a book on the history of the first Council of Nicea. Your comment took me back to it - men behaving badly. I say the same thing the Apostle Thomas said. You must not have heard me.

I haven’t left anything out. I hope you can at least acknowledge that. I’m not an evolutionist. I believe that God alone, by himself, is the creator of heaven and earth. You’ve said that your belief isn’t “Classic Trinity”- neither is mine.