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  1. Matthias

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    The spurious Johannine Comma, with your interpretation. Guessing is speculating. Speculating about God leads to trouble.
  2. Matthias

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Do whatever you think best. As Dr. Patton pointed out, attempts to “clarify” the Trinity using illustrations / analogies always produces heresy. We live in a day and age when heresy no longer matters as much as it once did in the Church.
  3. Matthias

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    I was taught in school not to use analogies for the Trinity. A trinitarian shared an article with me that I have gone on to share with other trinitarians. The article, written by a trinitarian, is titled “The Trinity is Like 3-in-1 Shampoo” … And Other Stupid Statements. "The Trinity is Like...
  4. Matthias

    Christian Oath of Allegiance..:)

    What is the Father’s role (position?) in the Christian Oath of Allegiance? Does pledging allegiance to a nationality conflict with it?
  5. Matthias

    WHO IS GOD.................?

    Someone else on the forum has suggested that the Father is the owner, the Son is the architect, and the Holy Spirit is the contractor of the creation. Does that fit with your line of reasoning? Is it also what you believe?
  6. Matthias

    WHO IS GOD.................?

    “They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.” (Acts 2:42, NASB) The event described in the verse historically took place in Jerusalem, circa 30 A.D. The Apostles’ Creed dates to the 2nd century A.D. The Nicene...
  7. Matthias

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    So all three aren’t the owner. Only one of the three, the Father is. So all three aren’t the architect. Only one of the three, the Son is. So all three aren’t the contractor who brought it all into existence. Only one of the three, the Holy Spirit is. So all three - the owner, the architect...
  8. Matthias

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    What the Trinity belief does to the Christian is have him or her asserting and affirming that the Trinity is the one true God. The Messiah himself makes no such assertion and affirmation. Jesus of Nazareth asserts that his God and the God of his followers, the Father, is the one true God...
  9. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    The NASB95 translation I’ve been using since about 1997 is the Side-Column Reference Edition, Copyright 1996. The margin note it has for Acts 2:34 says this: “2. Heb. Adonai in Ps 110:1” I don’t see that note in the online NASB20 posted on Blue Letter Bible, linked in post #102. The NASB95...
  10. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Not that I didn’t believe you, but I checked to see for myself. Here it is for everyone to see. Psalm 110 :: New American Standard Bible 2020 (NASB20) Confirmation that what you reported is true. The Lockman Foundation did not make the change which they told me (and others) - once again I...
  11. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Thank you. I do, and when I locate it I will post it here. P.S. I began looking for it this afternoon. I haven’t found it yet, but I will. What I did find was some personal correspondence I had forgotten about with Dr. Colin Brown (Fuller Theological Seminary; recently deceased). That’s not...
  12. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    So am I. So is Jesus. I’m a human person. So is Jesus. Are you a human person?
  13. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    I was just about to purchase it. If they didn’t make the change that they told me in writing that they would then the man who wrote the letter to me sent me something that isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. When I locate the letter - and I will - and if they didn’t make the change that they...
  14. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    I haven’t framed it as an academic oversight. It was intentional.
  15. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Is a human being a human person? How many beings is Jesus? How many beings is the Trinity? How does your source deal with the problem laid out in post #92?
  16. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    I have the letter - it’s just a matter of retrieving it from storage; and you know I’m a man of my word.
  17. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Have you seen the 2020 edition?
  18. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    No one. An immortal human person, a Jew, the Messiah, the Son of God, Jesus of Nazareth, is sitting at the right hand of God.
  19. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    A trinitarian scholar explains why Jesus is not a human person in trinitarian Christology. “The anhypostasia, impersonality, or, to speak more accurately, the enhypostasia, of the human nature of Christ. This is a difficult point, but a necessary link in the orthodox doctrine of the one...
  20. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    No I didn’t. I wrote the letter to point out that the Hebrew word is actually adoni, not adonai. That isn’t his point at all.