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Adam Clarke, a Methodist commentator, rejected eternal Sonship, calling it “anti-scriptural” and “highly dangerous”. He calls Origen’s “eternal generation” concept “absurd”. Luke 1:35 - Adam Clarke Bible Commentary I don’t think it’s possible to hold that point of view and be (or remain) a...

Is that a yes or a no?

@RLT63 does the term “Son” define the relationship between Jesus and his God in your theology? Or is it just a word that allows you to discuss a relationship that is beyond your comprehension?

I question that a person who waits until the last possible moment to accept Jesus as savior has. Jesus will be the judge of that. Let’s assume though that the person has. (Jesus nods his head approvingly.) I presume Jesus would recognize and acknowledge that the person had no opportunity to be...

Do they believe in baptizing infants and children? The question regarding whether it is necessary for salvation or not is interesting. It is commanded by Jesus and scripture records that it was actually performed. That sounds to me like an obedient response to a command made by the Messiah...

My grandparents wanted me to be baptized when I was about 10. My parents refused to allow it. They thought I should understanding what I was doing before I decided whether to do it or not - “believers baptism”. I was baptized at the age of 21. My parents were indifferent about it; my...

I was rebaptized after leaving trinitarianism. It wasn’t required by the Church; I requested to be rebaptized and after some discussion the pastor acquiesced. An Anabaptist theology. Trinitarian and anti-trinitarian united by an uncommon faith? That doesn’t fit well or sit well with...

Christians persecuting Christians is an old, old story. There’s nothing especially noteworthy or unique about what I’ve experienced at their hands. Give me a good non-Christian over a bad Christian.

:) Maybe one of the JW members of the forum will have a reference for us. * @Aunty Jane do you know? Could you provide a reference for where support for “a god” in John 1:1c is found in Origen’s writings?

I’ve also heard that but I haven’t been able to confirm it in Origen’s extant writings. I haven’t read them all - Origen was required reading in college, but not everything he wrote - so please keep that in mind. If he was responsible for it then it must be somewhere in his writings that I’m...

In trinitarian theology that’s true. Prior to Origen, the Church didn’t believe the Father and the Son were coequal. “6. Origen’s Helpful Suggestion. It was the many-sided genius of Origen that helped to solve the problem. Origen, like Tertullian, was strongly opposed to Monarchianism with its...

By definition and by practice, a person whose God is only one person is a unitarian. Observant Jews, unless and until they convert, are unitarians.

By means of the gospel.

I live in a rural area and have a very nice view of the stars at night. I worked for a short while in a very remote area of Southeast Africa. There was no electrical lighting in the area. The first night I was there, I looked up to the heavens and it literally took my breath away. The sky was...

My grandson is three years old. He loves the moon. (One of his favorite stories is Goodnight Moon.) Earlier this week, and totally out of the blue clear sky, he told me that “Astronauts made the moon.” I told him that astronauts visit the moon but it was God who made the moon. He didn’t say...

That’s an extraordinary story. Thanks for sharing it with me and your other readers.

Amen. Were you raised trinitarian?

The key phrase is “rather than a creed”.

That’s what they / we believed when I was a Southern Baptist. That’s what they believe now.

They did.