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You have a problem. As for Jesus himself, he has a God and his God isn’t the Trinity. Jesus isn’t a trinitarian. Jesus is a unitarian.

I don’t either, but if / when they call it the Trinity is it? Of course not. How do we know? The historical doctrine of the Trinity precludes / excluders it. My God isn’t the Trinity; neither is the God of United Pentecostal Oneness. Whose God is the Trinity? The Trinity is the God of...

@RLT63 If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Along that line, If a trinitarian repudiates or contradicts the details of the doctrine of the Trinity and someone is there to hear it, is it trinitarianism?

Do you see only Jesus in the art? Does trinitarianism? Persons who believe “Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit” do. What do you think? Trinitarians who see only Jesus in art and trinitarians who don’t see only Jesus in the art? We might call this the “It’s all good” solution.

No. The Messiah has more duties than that.

In the “Do Trinitarians know their doctrine?” thread. The conversation is currently the last entries there.

I believe in the one God and in his Messiah.

I’ve done so numerous times already. I use the same scripture everyone else does. What’s different is the hermeneutics. Yes. Yes. Yes. (Repetition for emphasis. No connection with, nor hinting of, the Trinity.)

You can read it for yourself. The discussion was conducted, for just such a purpose, publicly. That’s not what the Board representative said. Read it for yourself.

Yahweh, Jesus and a bird representing the Holy Spirit.

No. That is incorrect.

No. I’ve already discussed it with the Board staff. They don’t agree with your suggestion.

Then you’re not a defender of, an apologist for, the Trinity. If you want to call me a trinitarian, you may. Do you have any concern about that misleading others?

I believe Jesus is in some sense God. Have you asked Jack why he is here? Blue Dragonfly? Other non-trinitarians?

I’m not the source of the declaration.

One version of the Trinity is just as good as another? That, it seems to me, turns “Trinity” into a meaningless word of the day.

“Forget the Triune Godhead for a minute” = Forget God for a minute. That’s an interesting trinitarian invitation / approach.

Does it matter? On one of the most recent discussion forums I was on before becoming a member here, the leading defender of the Trinity rejected the Shield of the Trinity. He insisted that it does not depict the Trinity. Did the trinitarians on that forum still accept that person as a...

We’re not from the same branch of unitarianism.

It made a lasting impression on me. It’s a unique way of saying “sailing under a false flag.”