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This Catholic website discusses what has been called the “Messianic Secret” - Jesus’ reluctance to claim, let alone broadcast, that he is the Messiah. The “Messianic Secret” Meanwhile, trinitarians at our level of interaction commonly say that Jesus openly claimed something much greater than...

“Today the clarity and necessity of Chalcedon, if not refuted or disproved, has been widely forgotten and ignored. Christianity took four centuries to formulate its witness to the deity and humanity of Christ in the context of the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in such a way that it...

“Historians of Christianity and its relationship to society often claim that Constantine created Christian Europe, or Christendom, but that now we are in the post-Constantine era. In theology, we have to say that we now seem to have entered a post-Chalcedonian era. The transformation this...

Are you familiar with the term “elemental trinitarianism”? As for Dr. Brown, he was a Protestant defender of historical orthodox trinitarianism. His goal in life was to bring trinitarians back to that faith. He didn’t succeed in doing that with either one of us, though for different reasons.

Well, you did say that you’ve never met anyone like me before. What you’ve said doesn’t sound like rambling to me. Let’s talk about what you believe and why you believe it.

Pleased to meet you. From reading John 1:1 through the lens of Jewish unitary monotheism. Tyndale saw in this passage what I see in the passage. John is speaking here about the Father’s logos. John is pointing his readers back in the prologue to Genesis. The subject in the prologue is the...

I don’t think John was talking about Jesus in John 1:1. That is a difference in the way you and I see the verse. So back to our two options: a god is either a man or an angel. Do you believe that “before he came to earth” he was an angel or do you believe that “before he came to earth” he was...

Hello, fellow heretic. :) How does your way differ from the way that the trinitarian creeds demand?

So in John 1:1 you see Almighty God (one person, the God and Father of Jesus) and a god (Jesus). I was asking if you see Jesus in this passage as a man or an angel (the two options you presented for someone who is “a god”.) You see two persons in John 1:1. I see only one person in John 1:1.

I like your point but, just to be clear, it’s not my necessary development. It’s “their” necessary development. I’m not a trinitarian. The trinitarian author asserts that it is a legitimate development. I assert that it is not a legitimate development. That makes me, in the eyes of the...

Yes. Technically, it can also mean a goddess and an idol. I take it then that you see two persons in John 1:1; Almighty God (one person) and a god (another person). Do you see this second person as a man or as an angel? Yes. The 1st century Jews understood the concept of agency. They...

”Was the transition from the personal monotheism of Israel to the tri-personal theism of Nicaea a legitimate development of Old Testament revelation? Christians affirm that it is, holding that Nicaea represents a fuller unfolding, not a distortion, of the self-disclosure of the God of Israel...

”1. The one God. (a) theos is the most frequent designation of God in the NT. Belief in the one, only and unique God (Matt. 23:9; Rom. 3:30; 1 Cor. 8:4,6; Gal. 3:20; 1 Tim. 2:5; Jas. 2:19) is an established part of Christian tradition. Jesus himself made the fundamental confession of Jud. his...

“Jesus is alive!” Yes. But for those who believe that the dead are already alive without the need of resurrection, wasn’t he always alive? The point of “Jesus is alive!” is that he was, for a brief period of time, not alive. Resurrection restored him to life. Now that is something to be...

“Now if Christ is preached, that he has not been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; …” (1 Corinthians 15:12-13) Had Christ not been resurrected from the dead he...

I believe there is resurrection, so I acknowledge that your thread isn’t directed at people like me. (I’ve also done my daily Bible reading, as you’ve kindly encouraged me to do.) Why do you think Jesus said “He” instead of “I” or “We” in verse 32? Who is the “He” in relation to Jesus? (If...

Welcome to the forum. Jesus is neither “the only true God,” nor is he “a false god”. Please tell me what you think of this, a quote from a first century Jew named Philo. (Perhaps you’re familiar with him.) He said the following about Moses: “What more shall I say? Has he not also enjoyed an...

God is the God and Father of the man Christ Jesus.

I need to introduce you to @theefaith; then you will know one who does. Does it matter? If so, is there anything you can (should?) do to help?

I think they’re putting themselves in a perilous position but it’s not the unpardonable sin. There is a great difference between life in general - which all men have - and the life believers have both now and when Jesus Christ returns. Can we agree on any of that?