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Somehow, I don't think we really disagree. However, to be sure... Are you saying Jesus came to gather the lost sheep of Israel, who were first to the promises, and all who accept would be joined by Gentiles who exercise faith. Thus making up the Israel of God, or spiritual Israel, that would be...

I don't disagree. So the Church is the Saints, and the Saints the Church, or congregation of God, just as Israel was the congregation of God?

Please explain what you mean by taken from Israel. Please explain what you mean by given to the church.

Daniel Chapter 2? "all those kingdoms" refer to the kingdoms Daniel was shown - from Babylon to the last Daniel 2:36-44 Daniel 5:22-28 identifies the second kingdom. Daniel 8:20, 21 identifies the third kingdom. These kingdoms are not churches, but rulership. The kingdom God set's up, is also...

Why God's Government cannot be Christendom. Christendom is not a Government, but a religious system. God's kingdom is a government, or rulership. - Isaiah 9:6-7 God's kingdom is governed or ruled by kings. Christendom is not ruled by kings, but religious leaders. - Psalms 2; Daniel 7:13-14...

Did you read the verses before verse 44? They do not say "the pagan Roman Empire With the conversion of Constantine". Did you notice what the verses say those kingdoms are? Edit. @theefaith. Sorry about the last part which I removed. Didn't intent to sound confrontational. Hope you can respond...

So what are the other kingdoms, which it will crush? Daniel 2:44-45

@theefaith did I understand correctly what you wrote... you think the government is Christendom?

@JunChosen so how do we identify those who think they are Christians, but really don't know what it means to be a Christian?

Just click the link, and begin.

This is a subject I am always hoping to be able to discuss. Would you be open to discussing it with me in another thread? Okay. I guess it's best not to assume. I am one of 8.5 million of Jehovah's Witnesses. I hope you would be willing to explain how that relates to many people saying they are...

You don't know what my faith is? I thought you would know that from this post. Give it another look. I just want to see how you read that.

Well, thank you for that JunChosen. Not the bit about not knowing the word... but that's okay, we all have our opinions. ;) However, I agree that one who constantly dodges direct questions and avoids answering, is obviously not applying 1 Peter 3:15-18, but I will add, is more resembling the...

@Davy You quoted Genesis 35:11 I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. ...and Genesis 48:19 ...but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of...

I wasn't disputing what you said here, I mentioned two aspects - one physical; one spiritual. You are focused on the physical only. That's fine. I just wasn't aware of the OP's intent.

That's fine. I'm glad you ended it with those words, and not me. :)

I am not sure what your overall view is, but based on what you said, if I understand you clearly, you speak in line with truth from the scriptures. I would like to hear more. What do you think of this post. Does it agree with your views?

Paul did mention Israelites. Romans 9:6-8 Reading all of Romans tell us that there are Jews born on the outside - that is born by an earthly nation only, and there are Jews born on the inside - that is, born into God's spiritual nation, or household. The latter are not Jews or Israelites born...

Isaiah 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, upon...

@marks so as you see, I answered your questions directly, clearly, scripturally, and unhesitatingly. Would you be willing to do the same? I would like to know how do you reconcile your belief that the dead are living on in another form, with the following scriptures? Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 5 For...