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I am saying the way English speaking people use the word 'soul' is not in harmony with the way that word is used in the bible when Hebrew & greek words are translated into the word soul. As I understand the only immaterial part of humanity is the power of life given by God's Holy Spirit. 7...

So how do you then explain the two scriptures? I'm simply pointing out the way the bible is using these words. What I'm hearing you say is that you don't like the meaning because it is not fitting with your creed. Mark and Deut are very clearly using the same 'word'. As for saying because a...

To go one more step, death was not a punishment it was simply the truth. God told them where the limit was between life and death and they failed to trust him, not listen to his voice and took something that was not offered, something that could kill them and he warned them about that. Digging

Really? How about we look at a few more scriptures to see if we can find the meaning of the word according to the bible. Now since we are dealing with two different languages we need to find a scripture where the NT quotes the OT. Mark 12:30 NAS AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL...

The way to be delivered from death is through the resurrection, that's why what Jesus did is so important. We are not born with an immortal soul, we are mortal that's why we die. However through faith we can become an immortal soul by receiving the gift of everlasting life. Romans 6:23 NAS...

Sorry I missed that, my reply was to lukethreesix, but also everyone who thinks final condemnation can happen in this life time. Everyone who thinks that, I believe is misunderstanding something every important. The only thing that can happen now is to come out from under condemnation...

Stop what you are doing and go to a different church!!!! Your heart is telling you something is wrong change!!! Digging

If you are ever to face starving to death you will realize the value of fat for food. Digging

I'm talking about the Hebrew word that the various translations beyond only the KJV put as soul 'nehphesh' strongs # 5315 I believe. But here is the KJ Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul...

Please then explain WHEN will everyone hear if they are dead and NEVER heard the call of the message of Christ in their life time? If the spirit and bride calling is happening now? Digging

You keep saying to 'have a soul', I'm saying the way the bible is using this word 'soul' is used to describe everything that is alive. If it's alive, it IS A soul. If the spirit of God made it alive it's a sacred thing. That's why people say 'life' is sacred. Digging

I'm not saying that you are the one saying everyone goes there, I'm saying everyone gets to hear the call of the great shepherd in this age or the next and the ones who turn away after they have been given the fair chance like everyone else then they are lost. So I say far more people will yet...

Could you show me the vs that reads 'immortal soul' since you mentioned that, as I understand the Christian promise we look forwards to receiving immortality that is the gift to become an immortal soul. Digging

What I'm saying is that the word the bible uses for soul in Genesis is the exact same word that was used to describe the animals so then the way Christians are using the word perhaps is where the problem is? We don't have a soul we are a soul. The spirit that returns to God when we die is a...

For some one to be condemned they need to have rejected the word of Christ there is no other way. Like wise to be saved they need to hear the word for Christ there is so other way. Thus everyone will be given a personal opportunity to hear that word, this is how I understand the very purpose of...

Thank-you that works but then the other functions for the bible vs is shut of but I can live with that! Digging

Now, now stay calm, if you carefully go to a Hebrew concordance and look at the Hebrew word you will see it is the same word strongs # 5315 that is translated soul for Adam and creature for the other vs's. The word "nehphesh" Gen 1:20,21,24,30 Gen 2:7,19 Gen 9:10,12,15,16 15 and I will...

Thank-you for your reply I understand more clearly but I hope you are open to consider that there might be an answer that sits in between these two views. We have assumed that the judgement of the future will only be condemnation. When Jesus speaks of the resurrection he only mentions two kinds...

Right they are all living things that only the spirit of God made alive. Digging

What are you saying "post mortem' repentance??? Explain please more clearly? Digging