˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

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Rabbis of old were a bit perplexed by incidents in the Tanakh where there
appears to be a Jehovah on earth speaking for a Jehovah up in heaven.

For convenience sake, the rabbis labeled one of them Metatron; a celestial
being whose name is his master's.

Now take Jesus for an example. Philippians 2:9-11 says (in so many words)
that Jesus has been endowed with the privilege to be addressed and
worshipped by "the" name which is above every name that can be named.
Well; that particular name has to be Yahweh, a.k.a. Jehovah.

* There's a promise in the Old Testament strongly suggesting that Messiah
would be Jehovah's name on the dotted line. (Haggai 2:21-23)
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you are ADDING to what the Bible says! The Holy Spirit is not in John 14:21-23! what you are saying is RANK HERESY
Puh-LEASE.

What a cowardly cop-out.

You care nothing about the Truth, only about being acknowledged as RIGHT.

Well, you're WRONG, Buck-O!

The Bible contradicts you and God opposes you for teaching LIES.
 

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did you even bother to read the WHOLE of the OP? I am dealing with the OLD TESTAMENT use of ˒ĕlōhı̂m, and NOT the Greek θεος, which even the LXX misuses!
Yes I did read it, and none of it was convincing, particularly in light of what Jesus said in Mar 12:29.
 
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Puh-LEASE.

What a cowardly cop-out.

You care nothing about the Truth, only about being acknowledged as RIGHT.

Well, you're WRONG, Buck-O!

The Bible contradicts you and God opposes you for teaching LIES.

Here is the passage, now show where the Hoy Spirit is mentioned

21 The one who has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me. And the one who loves Me will be loved by My Father. I also will love him and will reveal Myself to him.”

22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it You’re going to reveal Yourself to us and not to the world?”

23 Jesus answered, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
 

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Here is the passage, now show where the Hoy Spirit is mentioned

21 The one who has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me. And the one who loves Me will be loved by My Father. I also will love him and will reveal Myself to him.”

22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it You’re going to reveal Yourself to us and not to the world?”

23 Jesus answered, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
Well, see, you must first HAVE the Holy Spirit in order to recognize the Holy Spirit.

And it is plain as day in those verses.

You're embarrassing yourself and destroying your credibility.
 
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Both Jesus Christ and the Father are Spiritual Persons, and yes they do live in Christians.
Another failure.

The trinity false doctrine claims that Jesus has a physical body; that He is the only one of the 3 that does.

You don't even know your own nonsense.
 

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Both Jesus Christ and the Father are Spiritual Persons, and yes they do live
in Christians.
Rom 8:9 . .If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong
to Christ.

1John 5:11-12 . .God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His son.
So whoever has God's son has the life; whoever does not have the life, does
not have His son.
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not convincing to you, because if you did accept what it says, then your "theology" is DEAD!
Why would I accept something that is not true? The Holy Spirit guards me against such things. I rely on His witness within me.

On a side note: You come across this forum as an angry person. Perhaps an elderly person who might have lost his/her spouse. Are you by chance in this condition?
 

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Rom 8:9 . .If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong
to Christ.

1John 5:11-12 . .God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His son.
So whoever has God's son has the life; whoever does not have the life, does
not have His son.
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There are THREE distinct Persons in the Godhead. The Father, Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit. They are not One and the same Person, nor does the One Person become Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This is HERESY
 

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WHY would you ask such silly things?
Well, because people often become angry/depressed and grief stricken after losing a spouse. Especially if it occurs later in life. That grief can often be projected onto others, loved ones in particular, without knowing it. Not necessarily intentionally, but as a coping mechanism until the Lord heals the wound.

I know this experience first hand. My wife returned to God (she passed away from cancer) a few years ago. I'm still dealing with the shock/pain of it.
 

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Well, because people often become angry/depressed and grief stricken after losing a spouse. Especially if it occurs later in life. That grief can often be projected onto others, loved ones in particular, without knowing it. Not necessarily intentionally, but as a coping mechanism until the Lord heals the wound.

I know this experience first hand. My wife returned to God (she passed away from cancer) a few years ago. I'm still dealing with the shock/pain of it.

I am truly sorry to hear of your great loss. May the Lord heal and comfort you.

I am not al all angry about anything, as I know that it is not always easy to grasp the deeper things about the Great God of the Bible.

I am very much convinced, unless proven wrong, that what I have said in the OP is without any doubt, correct.