GEN2REV
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You support them with your equivalent teaching.
Still no shame upon my shoulders.
It's all yours.
1st problem with O.S.A.S.
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Still no shame upon my shoulders.
It's all yours.
atpollard
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Trick Question.
[Heb 2:17 NASB95] 17 Therefore, He had to be made like His brethren in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.
[Heb 3:1 NASB95] 1 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the Apostle and High Priest of our confession;
[Heb 4:14-15 NASB95] 14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as [we are, yet] without sin.
[Heb 6:20 NASB95] 20 where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.
[Heb 7:26 NASB95] 26 For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens;
[Heb 8:1 NASB95] 1 Now the main point in what has been said [is this:] we have such a high priest, who has taken His seat at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,
Michiah-Imla
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We are priests!
“Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.” (1 Peter 2:5)
The royal priesthood
1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
but Jesus is high priest of the order of melchisedec so there must be low priests of the order of melchisedec
Michiah-Imla
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@theefaith
Try to be less inquisitive and curious about things in the scripture and try to be more like this so that God will look upon you:
“but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.” (Isaiah 66:2)
Try to be less inquisitive and curious about things in the scripture and try to be more like this so that God will look upon you:
“but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.” (Isaiah 66:2)
atpollard
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We are.
[1 Peter 2:9 NASB95] 9 But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR [God's] OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
Yes according to the royal priesthood
but Christ is high priest according to the order of melchisedec so there MUST be low priests of the order of melchisedec
atpollard
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Divisive dogmas built on distinctions without differences … a “Catholic specialty”.
Please provide even a single verse from Scripture that mentions the “low priests of the order of Melchisedec”.
Hebrews 5:10
Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
1 Timothy 4:14
Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
presbyter is a priest
1 Corinthians 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
2 Thessalonians 1:11
Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
There is a big difference between the people, and the priesthood of Christ and the apostles!
Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.
Matt 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Jn 20:21 as the father sent me, I send you. And Jn 17:18 I send you!
(The apostles with the same mission, power, and authority)
The apostles received the kingdom.
Lk 22:29
The apostles administer the kingdom. Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18
The apostles govern the church.
Matt 28:19-20
The apostles hold office.
Acts 1:15-20
The apostles have authority to forgive sins. Jn 20:23
Apostles are the light of the world!
The church is an extension of Christ in time and space. Matt 5:14
The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!
Therefore the apostles have authority to send more apostles or successors!
Apostolic succession!
The nations still need to be taught, disciples still need to be baptized and the church the new covenant kingdom of christ still needs to be governed!
Three fold ministry,
Teaching:
Sanctification:
Governing:
Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Isa 22:21-22
Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.
Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.
Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments
God established order and peace and knowledge of truth in a hierarchical authority of Peter and the apostles!
There is a hierarchical authority in all that God has ordained!
The angelic kingdom!
The civil kingdom!
The church kingdom!
The family!
All are ordered with hierarchical and jurisdictional authority!
There CANNOT be both!
Either Apostolic tradition in hierarchical authority which establishes truth, peace and order!
Or
Spiritual anarchy producing chaos and disorder!
mailmandan
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