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Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows
 
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No worries if you are a born-again believer that will be caught up in the very NEAR rapture.
 

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Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows
Earth is not going to become an uninhabitable hell. The scripture you cited is speaking of the DAY of the Lord. It is an event, not a fate of the warth to be burned up and never inhabited again. You need to keep reading. It is speaking of a renovation process.

2 Peter 3:10-14
[10]But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
[11]Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
[12]Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
[13]Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

[14]Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

After the fire, God will create new heavens and a new earth. It is a day ....not years and certainly not billions of years. The fire is from God, not nature.

Hebrews 12:29

[29]For our God is a consuming fire.
 

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Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows
There is no need for fear if you believe the scriptures. And I'm not referring to a rapture before the tribulation. What I'm referring to is false science. Scripture speaks about this... science falsely so called. If it doesn't line up with scripture, we don't have any need to fret over it.

1 Timothy 6:20-21
[20]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

[21]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. (The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.)
 

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1 Thessalonians 4:16-17​

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be """caught up""" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.====Raptured!!!
 

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2 Peter 3:10-14
[10]But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
[11]Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
[12]Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
[13]Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

[14]Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

After the fire, God will create new heavens and a new earth. It is a day ....not years and certainly not billions of years. The fire is from God, not nature.
This quote should start with 2 Peter 3:7 By Gods Word, the present heavens and earth are being kept for burning. ....
Then he reiterates in V 10, how that Day will come unexpectedly, a sudden and shocking Day when the godless peoples will be destroyed.
This refers to the forthcoming Sixth Seal, which will be an explosion of the suns surface; striking the Middle East area at mid day, Zephaniah 2:4 It will completely clear and cleanse the entire Holy Land, only a remnant of Messianic Jews will survive in Jerusalem. Isaiah 6:11-13

Peter then says; V 13, that there will be a new heavens and a new earth.....
We are told specifically when that will come - AFTER the Millennium. Revelation 21:1
 
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1 Thessalonians 4:16-17​

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be """caught up""" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.====Raptured!!!
This will be audible.
 

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The Greek word used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is harpázō, and should be understood as a final, once-and-for-all taking by force by Christ of what is His, what ~ and who, of course ~ has been given Him by the Father (rather than some kind of removal or transporting to somewhere else of what is His). It is the same Greek word, and should be understood in the same sense, as what John records the Lord Jesus as saying in John 10:29, that "My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch..." harpázō “…them out of the Father’s hand."

There is absolutely nothing anywhere in Scripture, here or anywhere else, intimating in any way any kind of "removal" or "transporting to some other location" of believers at Christ's return.

To the original post, the earth will be burned up in the sense that God's final Judgment will be rendered and executed. On that day, the earth will finally be cleansed of all sin and in that sense made new. Renewed, as it were, never to be defiled again for all eternity. The final victory will be won, and heaven and earth will again be one. Our faith will be sight. As Isaiah puts it in chapter 35 of his prophecy, the ransomed of the LORD ~we ~ shall return and come to Zion with singing; everlasting joy shall be upon their ~ our ~ heads; they ~ we ~ shall obtain gladness and joy, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

Grace and peace to all.
 
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Thessalonians 4:16-17​

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be """caught up""" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.====Raptured!!!

Jesus is in heaven today and at the catching up =rapture we Will go up to meet Jesus in the clouds and be with he Lord.
 

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Thessalonians 4:16-17​

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be """caught up""" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.====Raptured!!!

Jesus is in heaven today and at the catching up =rapture we Will go up to meet Jesus in the clouds and be with he Lord.
At the resurrection we will go to him first. Then, after the resurrection will those who survive be snatched away in a hurry.

Yes Jesus is in heaven today! But he remains there, and will not leave heaven to meet us till the time to restore all things after things have been removed. Acts 3:21
 

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Jesus==

Zechariah 14:4​

4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
 

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Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows
2 Pet 3.10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

I think much about Climate Change today stems from the fear of unbelievers who see the fragility of our environment and the predictable evils of men. Some of these things, however, cannot or will not change because that is the environment God has placed us in since the Fall of Man. We have to live with certain problems.

Since the Age of Reason, however, Man has begun to think he can, by science, fix any problem. In theory that appears to be true. However, for every fixed problem there is another problem because literally everything Man touches is flawed. The lesson here is, We have to trust God.

In the Scriptures we are told that God made the earth as the eternal habitat for Man. We should just believe this, regardless of the negativities that we have imposed upon it. Judgment Day will come, but it will not be able to deprive us of God's purpose for us to live here on this planet. No matter what happens in space, God can fix it and without any flaws.

I think Peter was writing about Judgment Day, and not about the annihilation of the planet. He was talking about a wholesale change in our environment to rid us of evil. That day will come.

You have to understand that Peter is using the standard symbolic language of judgment derived from the OT Scriptures. The "disappearance of the heavens," for example, could refer to raging fires with smoke so thick that you can't see the sky. The "burning of elements" could refer to cities burning with such intense heat that even rocks melt.

It is the judgment itself that "lays bare" the sins of men that have brought upon themselves this judgment from God. People will be viewed as the *cause* of all of this destruction, not due to failure to heed to Climate Change activities, but rather, due to their carelessness with respect to God's holy word.
 
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Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows
Do a Bible study on the phrase "day of the Lord". There is much also written in the Old Testament prophets about that day, which will be the final day of this present 2nd world earth age.

Everyone alive on earth will be 'changed' at the twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15; Isaiah 25). Man's works will be literally burned off the surface of the earth by God's consuming fire on that day.
That consuming fire will not harm those in Christ Jesus (see Daniel 3 about the hot fiery furnace heated seven times hotter than necessary.)
 

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Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows
2 Peter 3:1-7

CONTEXT:

--- Beloved, I now write this second letter to you, in which I stir up your pure mind to remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of the Lord and Savior by us, the apostles. First, knowing this, that there will come in the last days scoffers walking according to their own lusts and saying,

"Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation."

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens (οὐρανός ouranós) were of old, and the earth [γῆ gē] standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world (O κόσμος kósmos) that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. ---

It does not say the heavens (οὐρανός ouranós) and the earth [γῆ gē] perished, but the world (O κόσμος kósmos) - all flesh - in it.

2 Peter 3:7
"But the present heavens and the earth being kept in store by the same word, are being kept for fire until the day of judgment and destruction OF (CONTEXT) UNGODLY MEN."

According to the example Peter used, the above is just like the "all flesh" that perished in the flood, i.e not the heavens (οὐρανός ouranós) and the earth [γῆ gē] perishing, but the world (O κόσμος kósmos) - all flesh - in it ..

-- But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away [parérchomai] with a great noise, and the 1. elements [stoicheîon] shall be 2. dissolved [lýō] with fervent heat, the earth also and the 3. works [érgon] that are therein shall be burned up. -- 2 Peter 3:10.

1. stoicheîon refers to the rudiments of the world in every New Testament verse the word appears in;

2. lýō refers to something that was bound, being loosed;

3. érgon refers in some verses to the works of God, and in a very long list of verses, to the works of men or of Satan.

4. parérchomai: In every verse it's found, the word parérchomai is used interchangeably for "passing by", "passing closeby", "coming near" or "to seize upon, to come upon", or in reference to a time that has passed. It's not referring to the DEATH or burning up of anything, let alone the universe:-

[Strongs Greek 03928] παρέρχομαι parérchomai, par-er'-khom-ahee:
from 3844 and 2064; to come near or aside, i.e. to approach (arrive), go by (or away), (figuratively) perish or neglect, (causative) avert:--come (forth), go, pass (away, by, over), past, transgress.

The example of the flood used by Peter, and the fact that the universe and the earth was not destroyed in the flood but the world - all flesh - in it - tells us that 2 Peter 3:10 is referring once again to the destruction of the flesh, i.e the rudiments of this world and the wicked works (ergon) of ungodly men - but not by water, and not by a flood.
 

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2 Peter 3:1-7

CONTEXT:

--- Beloved, I now write this second letter to you, in which I stir up your pure mind to remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of the Lord and Savior by us, the apostles. First, knowing this, that there will come in the last days scoffers walking according to their own lusts and saying,

"Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation."

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens (οὐρανός ouranós) were of old, and the earth [γῆ gē] standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world (O κόσμος kósmos) that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. ---

It does not say the heavens (οὐρανός ouranós) and the earth [γῆ gē] perished, but the world (O κόσμος kósmos) - all flesh - in it.

2 Peter 3:7
"But the present heavens and the earth being kept in store by the same word, are being kept for fire until the day of judgment and destruction OF (CONTEXT) UNGODLY MEN."

According to the example Peter used, the above is just like the "all flesh" that perished in the flood, i.e not the heavens (οὐρανός ouranós) and the earth [γῆ gē] perishing, but the world (O κόσμος kósmos) - all flesh - in it ..

-- But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away [parérchomai] with a great noise, and the 1. elements [stoicheîon] shall be 2. dissolved [lýō] with fervent heat, the earth also and the 3. works [érgon] that are therein shall be burned up. -- 2 Peter 3:10.

1. stoicheîon refers to the rudiments of the world in every New Testament verse the word appears in;

2. lýō refers to something that was bound, being loosed;

3. érgon refers in some verses to the works of God, and in a very long list of verses, to the works of men or of Satan.

4. parérchomai: In every verse it's found, the word parérchomai is used interchangeably for "passing by", "passing closeby", "coming near" or "to seize upon, to come upon", or in reference to a time that has passed. It's not referring to the DEATH or burning up of anything, let alone the universe:-

[Strongs Greek 03928] παρέρχομαι parérchomai, par-er'-khom-ahee:
from 3844 and 2064; to come near or aside, i.e. to approach (arrive), go by (or away), (figuratively) perish or neglect, (causative) avert:--come (forth), go, pass (away, by, over), past, transgress.

The example of the flood used by Peter, and the fact that the universe and the earth was not destroyed in the flood but the world - all flesh - in it - tells us that 2 Peter 3:10 is referring once again to the destruction of the flesh, i.e the rudiments of this world and the wicked works (ergon) of ungodly men - but not by water, and not by a flood.
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2nd Peter 3:10


Isaiah 65:17

New heaven & new earth - no sun, no moon, no seas _ Revelation 21



**Heaven** and Earth will pass away

When God destroyed the world by the flood, the word flesh or world (referring to the people) was used not earth - and the word heaven or heavens were not included in the writings of that event. Genesis 6:17



God promise not to destroy flesh or Earth (LAND) with water again **doesn't say a thing about heaven or heavens** Genesis 9:11

NOWHERE in the account of Noah and the flood did God mention destroying heaven or heavens......... Huge difference in comparing to _ scriptures surrounding the flood **does not** mention any form of destruction of heaven or heavens __ yet both the heavens and the Earth being burnt up and melting with fervent heat in 2nd Peter.
 

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2nd Peter 3:10


Isaiah 65:17

New heaven & new earth - no sun, no moon, no seas _ Revelation 21



**Heaven** and Earth will pass away

When God destroyed the world by the flood, the word flesh or world (referring to the people) was used not earth - and the word heaven or heavens were not included in the writings of that event. Genesis 6:17



God promise not to destroy flesh or Earth (LAND) with water again **doesn't say a thing about heaven or heavens** Genesis 9:11

NOWHERE in the account of Noah and the flood did God mention destroying heaven or heavens......... Huge difference in comparing to _ scriptures surrounding the flood **does not** mention any form of destruction of heaven or heavens __ yet both the heavens and the Earth being burnt up and melting with fervent heat in 2nd Peter.
It's not referring to the destruction of the heavens (universe) and the earth (planet) in the Greek.

Both the original language and the context of the passage in 2 Peter is telling us that the heavens and the earth are being kept by the same Word that kept the heavens and the earth in the days of Noah - but this time for the judgment and destruction by fire OF (CONTEXT) THE RUDIMENTS OF THIS WORLD AND THE WORKS OF UNGODLY MEN (flesh)

- which once again, in the long list of New Testament verses the Greek words are found in, NEVER refers to the destruction of the rocks for the works of rocks. That's your own (false) assumption (and has been the assumption of many Christians for at least 1,700 years, although not of all).

You cannot hold onto that false assumption without flatly ignoring the meaning of the Greek words used in 2 Peter 3:10 wherever else the words appear in the New Testament (in each and every other verse in the New Testament they are found in).

Jesus also does not say in Revelation 21 that He CREATES all things new. He says He will MAKE all things new. It was not a newly created heavens and newly created earth that came into being after the flood, and the heavens and earth were not destroyed by the water, but all flesh in it - which is the reason why Peter mentions that prototype of what is coming in the first place.

Unfortunately though many Christians are good at holding onto their false interpretations rather than letting facts regarding scripture tell them what it actually means.
 
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It's not referring to the destruction of the heavens (universe) and the earth (planet) in the Greek.

Both the original language and the context of the passage in 2 Peter is telling us that the heavens and the earth are being kept by the same Word that kept the heavens and the earth in the days of Noah - but this time for the judgment and destruction by fire OF (CONTEXT) THE RUDIMENTS OF THIS WORLD AND THE WORKS OF UNGODLY MEN (flesh)

- which once again, in the long list of New Testament verses the Greek words are found in, NEVER refers to the destruction of the rocks for the works of rocks. That's your own (false) assumption (and has been the assumption of many Christians for at least 1,700 years, although not of all).

You cannot hold onto that false assumption without flatly ignoring the meaning of the Greek words used in 2 Peter 3:10 wherever else the words appear in the New Testament (in each and every other verse in the New Testament they are found in).

Jesus also does not say in Revelation 21 that He CREATES all things new. He says He will MAKE all things new. It was not a newly created heavens and newly created earth that came into being after the flood, and the heavens and earth were not destroyed by thye water, but all flesh in it - which is the reason why Peter mentions that prototype of what is coming in the first place.

Unfortunately though many Christians are good at holding onto their false interpretations rather than letting facts regarding scripture tell them what it actually means.
You haven't proven me wrong or proven you right. The Bible tells us don't argue over words (scripture).

So I'll end with this your belief is yours and mine is mine.
 

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Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows

Nope.
Per God's Word, especially His Old Testament prophets where Peter was pulling from about events on the "day of the Lord", God's consuming fire will simply burn man's works off the 'surface' of this earth suddenly, at an instant.

This is why that "day of the Lord" is mentioned, because it means the very 'last' day of this present world.
 

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Nope.
Per God's Word, especially His Old Testament prophets where Peter was pulling from about events on the "day of the Lord", God's consuming fire will simply burn man's works off the 'surface' of this earth suddenly, at an instant.

This is why that "day of the Lord" is mentioned, because it means the very 'last' day of this present world
I was just wondering what people think. Scientific studies indicate that this is going to happen. According to their studies if it happens, it's building up to that instant.

When we think about it everything that occurs on Earth with mankind is building up to the instant of the return of Christ and his actions.

When I read scripture and my understanding of it is that it won't just be the surface of the Earth, it will be the entire Earth will be burnt up with ferment heat, disintegrated and the reason I think this is because it says the heavens and the Earth will pass away. Why would God burn up the heavens also? But the main questions would be why would Jesus say he's going to prepare a place that where he is we may be also? Doesn't that mean not on this Earth. Did he not say his kingdom is not of this world. And why would the Book of Revelation tell us that there will be a new heaven and a new Earth and that there will be no seas, no sun, and no moon, in the Lord will be the light of it - if only the surface of the Earth would be burnt up doesn't that mean that the moon and the sun will cease to exist, burnt up also? The church is divided in a few different scriptures, one of the reasons we have so many denominations and the atheist love it.

Not that you may be interested but here are three different views on this Earth and heaven will no longer exist after judgment.