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[ButterflyJones]

Isaiah 45 is directed to Cyrus, the Persian King whom God used to overthrow Babylon.

Isaiah 45:1 says....
"This is what Jehovah says to his anointed one, to Cyrus,
Whose right hand I have taken hold of
To subdue nations before him,
To disarm kings,
To open before him the double doors,
So that the gates will not be shut".
This was how the Medo/Persians conquered what was believed to be an imprenetrable city.....
The copper gates were carelessly left open so that when they diverted the waters in the river that protected the city, the Medo/Persian soldiers walked staright into the city and took it in one night. The Babylonians were partying, never imagining what was about to befall them.

Jehovah went on to say....Vs 4-7...
"For the sake of my servant Jacob and of Israel my chosen one,
I am calling you by your name.
I am giving you a name of honor, although you did not know me
5 I am Jehovah, and there is no one else
There is no God except me.
I will strengthen you, although you did not know me,
6 In order that people may know
From the rising of the sun to its setting
That there is none besides me.
I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.

7 I form light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, Jehovah, am doing all these things."

Jehovah made sure that Cyrus knew that it was not his own doing that he conquered the greatest world power of the day so easily.
So "in context" what you are claiming is inaccurate. Jehovah is reiterating that he is the source of all things, and can make whatever needs to happen...happen....both good and bad.

If you remember back in Eden "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" was off limits to the humans, under penalty of death. That means that God placed what that tree represented, in his own jurisdiction. Deciding what was "good or bad" was God's decision to make, not man's. In their fallen state, humans have proven that they often do not know the difference.


No sorry, I cannot agree with that assumption....in the beginning there was to be no sin....remember?
Good and evil only exist as equal opposites, which are seen in nature and in the things we take for granted every day.....up, down...in, out....forwards, backwards....high, low....positive, negative.....hot, cold....God's creation is perfectly balanced, but the one thing he did not give humans, was permission to 'know good and evil' for themselves. God's unfathomable goodness had to be contrasted with an equal opposite which he determined was not a knowledge that we needed to enjoy life here on this beautifully prepared earth. He would tell us what is good, and protect us from evil.....like any good parent.....if only those three had simply obeyed their Creator, we would not be in this mess.

Apart from the fact that satan is never called "Lucifer" in the Bible.....yes, he was the first rebel, but he was not joined by other angels till after his success in Eden. He had proven that he could manipulate humans and gain their worship by dividing their loyalty and calling into question God's character.......but only by lying to them. All the issues he raised about God and his Sovereignty had to be settled once and for all, otherwise there was nothing to stop it happening all over again.

You're avoiding what God stated of himself in Isaiah 45:7.
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”


Further and lastly, on Earth God's law began in Eden.
"Thou shalt not..."
Sin entered the world by one man, Adam. It entered because violating God's rules is sin.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Verse please?

Jesus own words.....
Matt 23:13-15,33...
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in. 14 ——
15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you travel over sea and dry land to make one proselyte, and when he becomes one, you make him a subject for Ge·henʹna twice as much so as yourselves. . . .

Serpents, offspring of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of Ge·henʹna?”

“Gehenna” (not hades) awaited them as their final destination.....as Jesus also said in Matt 10:28...

“And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Ge·henʹna.”

Those who are sentenced to “Gehenna” would never see life again. Jesus said that body and soul are “destroyed” there, meaning that they cease to exist....whereas those in “hades” are released in the resurrection. (Rev 20 13-14; John 5:28-29) Translating those two words as “hell” is totally misleading.

Those Jewish leaders knew what Gehenna was...a place where garbage was destroyed in fires that never went out. It was a literal place outside the walls of Jerusalem...a garbage dump. It was used by Jesus to picture eternal death. Nothing alive ever went into Gehenna and nothing ever came out....things were “destroyed” there, not tortured.

 

[Aunty Jane]

You're avoiding what God stated of himself in Isaiah 45:7.
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”


Further and lastly, on Earth God's law began in Eden.
"Thou shalt not..."
Sin entered the world by one man, Adam. It entered because violating God's rules is sin.

Here is a concentration on the words, but out of context....the person to whom it was addressed was being told that God would be able to do whatever was necessary to accomplish his purpose. He named the man long before he was used to conquer Babylon so that he would know it wasn’t due to any great power on his part. Jehovah used Babylon to punish his wayward people, but later he punished Babylon by using Cyrus, King of Medo/Persia to conquer Babylon. Here is God using good and evil to accomplish his purpose. Good and evil exist as equal opposites, but humans were not supposed to have to decide between them.

Evil entered human consciousness with the fall in Eden. Adam was overreached by the actions of his wife. She was baited by the devil so that Adam would have his loyalties divided....the plan worked and the human race was handed over to the “god” they chose. (Luke 4:5-6)

That evil or sin exists is not the issue....it was never supposed to touch the human race......but free will was abused and all free willed beings had to learn to drive it without impacting negatively on their fellow beings, both angelic and human. We are still in the throes of this very important object lesson......we couldn’t just be told to obey our Creator, we we had to experience the fallout of disobedience.....and here we are, in a world ruled by the one who hijacked the human race for his own selfish ambitions....but not for much longer I believe.

 

[ButterflyJones]

Here is a concentration on the words, but out of context....the person to whom it was addressed was being told that God would be able to do whatever was necessary to accomplish his purpose. He named the man long before he was used to conquer Babylon so that he would know it wasn’t due to any great power on his part. Jehovah used Babylon to punish his wayward people, but later he punished Babylon by using Cyrus, King of Medo/Persia to conquer Babylon. Here is God using good and evil to accomplish his purpose. Good and evil exist as equal opposites, but humans were not supposed to have to decide between them.

Evil entered human consciousness with the fall in Eden. Adam was overreached by the actions of his wife. She was baited by the devil so that Adam would have his loyalties divided....the plan worked and the human race was handed over to the “god” they chose. (Luke 4:5-6)

That evil or sin exists is not the issue....it was never supposed to touch the human race......but free will was abused and all free willed beings had to learn to drive it without impacting negatively on their fellow beings, both angelic and human. We are still in the throes of this very important object lesson......we couldn’t just be told to obey our Creator, we we had to experience the fallout of disobedience.....and here we are, in a world ruled by the one who hijacked the human race for his own selfish ambitions....but not for much longer I believe.

I wish you the best with your theology. :)

 

[Aunty Jane]

I wish you the best with your theology. :)

It isn't theology.....its simple Bible truth. People get so bogged down in the details that they fail to see the big picture......why we are in this mess...and how God determined long ago to get us out of it, whilst at the same time preserving the precious gift of free will.

 

[RLT63]

It isn't theology.....its simple Bible truth. People get so bogged down in the details that they fail to see the big picture......why we are in this mess...and how God determined long ago to get us out of it, whilst at the same time preserving the precious gift of free will.

I agree that we have free will. But here’s someone that disagrees

Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

@Enoch111 @Taken @Renniks @GISMYS_7 @Backlit @Riverwalker @BARNEY BRIGHT @TLHKAJ @HisLife @Ronald Nolette @post @Wynona @Iconoclast @CharismaticLady @MatthewG @Abaxvahl @BeyondET @RLT63 @Rightglory @Bible_Patrol @Jim B @Johann @Gilligan @Behold @Pierac @n2thelight @Eternally Grateful @Titus...

www.christianityboard.com

 

[Aunty Jane]

I agree that we have free will. But here’s someone that disagrees

Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

@Enoch111 @Taken @Renniks @GISMYS_7 @Backlit @Riverwalker @BARNEY BRIGHT @TLHKAJ @HisLife @Ronald Nolette @post @Wynona @Iconoclast @CharismaticLady @MatthewG @Abaxvahl @BeyondET @RLT63 @Rightglory @Bible_Patrol @Jim B @Johann @Gilligan @Behold @Pierac @n2thelight @Eternally Grateful @Titus...

www.christianityboard.com

Well, if you examine the instructions Adam received, you will see that the command not to eat of "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" would have been unnecessary if he did not have free will. We can tell our own children not to do something, but it doesnt mean that they will obey us....if you include a penalty, then there is a deterrent, but free will can override even the threat of death.
Gen 2:15-17...
"Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it. 16 Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”
This was before Eve was created.

If he did not have free will, then this command makes no sense.

 

[RLT63]

Well, if you examine the instructions Adam received, you will see that the command not to eat of "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" would have have been unnecessary if he did not have free will. We can tell our own children not to do something, but it doesnt mean that they will obey us....if you include a penalty, then there is a deterrent, but free will can override even the threat of death.
Gen 2:15-17...
"Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it. 16 Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”
This was before Eve was created.

If he did not have free will, then this command makes no sense.

I agree

 

[ButterflyJones]

Well, if you examine the instructions Adam received, you will see that the command not to eat of "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" would have have been unnecessary if he did not have free will. We can tell our own children not to do something, but it doesnt mean that they will obey us....if you include a penalty, then there is a deterrent, but free will can override even the threat of death.
Gen 2:15-17...
"Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it. 16 Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”
This was before Eve was created.

If he did not have free will, then this command makes no sense.

Children do not make fully informed conscious decisions to obey or disobey. They're innocent and compulsive.

We know for a fact Adam and Eve did not make an informed choice to disobey God.
They were guided by a wiser consciousness than themselves. One that knew the ultimatum God gave two people who had not one clue as to what it meant to obey, disobey, nor what it meant to die.

Only knowing right from wrong allows someone to make a conscious choice to act in obedience or disobedience. Because they weigh the consequences.

Adam and Eve were like adult size innocent newborns. Until they ate of the tree. Then they were like unto God. Knowing right from wrong. Good from evil.

Eve didn't sin when she ate of the tree. She was beguiled by the wiser serpent. Adam was the one whom God directly commanded not to eat. And Adam followed the woman none the less as he stood beside her when she was seduced by the serpent.

He did not lead . He followed. Yet, still did not know what he was doing.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Children do not make fully informed conscious decisions to obey or disobey. They're innocent and compulsive.

That depends on the age of the child. They know right from wrong as they continue to experience life and the consequences of their actions. Even very young children know that obedience to their parents means consequences if they disobey.....

We know for a fact Adam and Eve did not make an informed choice to disobey God.
They were guided by a wiser consciousness than themselves. One that knew the ultimatum God gave two people who had not one clue as to what it meant to obey, disobey, nor what it meant to die.

What makes you think that God would not have educated Adam for quite some time before he introduced him to his wife?
Hopefully you are not under the illusion that the creative days were merely 24 hour "days"?
A little study on the word "day" in Hebrew (yôm) will dispel that idea and explain why there were no dinosaurs to add drama to their difficult existence when Adam and his wife were expelled from the garden.

If he was assigned the task of naming all the animals, then some time must have been taken to do that, studying the animals' form and characteristics. And when you understand how many animals God made, both on land, in the skies and in the waters, it wasn't just done in a day.

Only knowing right from wrong allows someone to make a conscious choice to act in obedience or disobedience. Because they weigh the consequences.

The consequences were clearly stated.....not rocket science....'obey and live...disobey and die'. Even a child can understand that.
The devil disarmed the penalty for the woman, who believed him for some reason....he targeted the woman when she was alone (knowing she was new and inexperienced) and after she had taken the fruit and she did not die, she offered some to Adam when he joined her later. He was then faced with a dilemma....he had to choose between sticking to his God....and sticking to his wife....someone he had waited a long time for.
Both ate the fruit, but for very different reasons. The consequences were catastrophic, but free will was exercised, only in the wrong way.

The man knew what death was because he must have witnessed the death of other creatures, who were not given opportunity for everlasting life, "made in God's image", like humans were. Animals have a life cycle which is perpetuated by reproduction. Humans were told to "fill the earth" so there would have been a limit for those who never died. They were not to "overfill" it.

Adam and Eve were like adult size innocent newborns. Until they ate of the tree. Then they were like unto God. Knowing right from wrong. Good from evil.

I disagree....if they were ignorant, then no penalty would have applied....God does not hold people accountable for sins committed in ignorance (Romans 5:13).....Adam and his wife were not ignorant, and the penalty was clearly stated and both understood what death was.

Eve didn't sin when she ate of the tree. She was beguiled by the wiser serpent. Adam was the one whom God directly commanded not to eat. And Adam followed the woman none the less as he stood beside her when she was seduced by the serpent.

How can you say that? Even if she was deceived, she still stole from her Sovereign. That fruit was not given to them, but remained the property of Jehovah. It was Adam's decision to eat the fruit, but if he had remained loyal to his God, instead of joining his wife, things would have turned out very differently. Sin entered into the world through Adam, so a different choice on his part would have kept sin OUT of the world.

He did not lead . He followed. Yet, still did not know what he was doing.

He did not obey, and he knew full well what he was doing....otherwise he would not have been evicted from the garden on ground that was cursed for the rest of his life. Outside the garden, life was tough and they would have realized just how much their choices affected not only themselves, but also their future children. Within one generation, a murderer was produced, but also the first righteous man, Abel, who was killed by his jealous brother....such is the power of sin. We too have learned that lesson well....or we should have.

We can never claim ignorance because we all know what is expected of those who worship the true God. He has educated us too.

 

[Davy]

Bravo to that bold part especially. I was hoping someone would catch that. Well done.

No one is yet judged and in Hell. Revelation.
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We still have to be careful with that word "hell" also, because in the KJV New Testament it can refer to 3 different places in the Greek text. When it's 'geena' in the Greek, taken from the Hebrew Hinnom, then it means the future "lake of fire" at the end of Rev.20. Otherwise, it is either 'haides' or 'tartaroo' in the Greek, which is about the heavenly abode of the wicked, like where the rich man of Luke 16 was.

 

[Patrick1966]

It was Adam's decision to eat the fruit, but if he had remained loyal to his God, instead of joining his wife, things would have turned out very differently.

I think it was God's will that things happened as they did. Do you agree?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Is Judas saved? Only God can truly look at the conditions of the heart to know if someone believed in Jesus Christ with faith alone and gained permanent salvation. As it is the Holy Spirit, who is God, that is inside a person dwelling that makes a person clean of all sins.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,



Let’s get more specific, and know that I am referring to Judas Iscariot here

Jesus answered, “It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish.” Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.



However, if we assume that this Judas, of Iscariot, is not saved, then arises another question.



Will Judas Iscariot be saved? Yes, eventually this Judas will believe in Jesus Christ with faith alone and be saved permanently. And yes, I am aware that this Judas committed suicide.

Matthew 27:1 5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.



And yes I am aware that Judas Iscariot was the one who betrayed Jesus Christ.

Luke 22:47 While he was still speaking a crowd came up, and the man who was called Judas, one of the Twelve, was leading them. He approached Jesus to kiss him, 48 but Jesus asked him, “Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?”



And you’re probably wondering how a traitor like Judas can receive salvation? When his act of betrayal became so popular that it has a whole Wikipedia page on it?



Kiss of Judas - Wikipedia

Justus Knecht comments on Judas' kiss writing,

He did not refuse his treacherous kiss: He suffered His sacred Face to be touched by the lips of this vile traitor, and He even called him: “Friend!” “I have always treated you as My friend”, He meant to imply, “why therefore do you come now at the head of My enemies, and betray Me to them by a kiss!” This loving treatment on the part of our Lord was to the ungrateful traitor a last hour of grace. Jesus gave him to understand that He still loved him in spite of his vile crime, and was ready to forgive him.



Despite this treacherous kiss, Jesus was ready to forgive Judas! And Jesus Christ is still ready, waiting with open arms, ready to forgive Judas Iscariot. All people will become righteous friends of the Lord, like how Abraham believed in the Lord and was seen as a friend of righteousness.

Romans 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”



When his act of betrayal became so noteworthy that it appears on the dictionary? Literally as something specifically defined as “deceitful and treacherous”.

Judas kiss



Judas kiss

Also found in: Idioms, Wikipedia.

a deceitful and treacherous kiss.

an act appearing to be an act of friendship, which is in fact harmful to the recipient.



The term “Judas Kiss” has even gone beyond the Biblical Christianity and has been used to describe “treacherous natures” in general by the general masses, such as with the fictional (aka fake, false) human made Japanese danmaku 弾幕 だんまく series “Touhou” 東方 Though I do enjoy this series, like the music.

Touhou PC-98 東方 5 Kaikidan ~ Mystic Square怪綺談 とうほうかいきだんMai's マイTheme: Treacherous Maiden ~ Judas Kiss. 裏切りの少女Released 1998-12-30 (Comiket 55)

The creator of Touhou, Jun’ya “ZUN” Ōta 太田 順也, and of this music track describes it 東方幻想的音楽 as

This is "Treacherous Maiden ~ Judas Kiss" from Mystic Square. … I was thinking of arranging in Biblical style as the title implies(kiss of Judas), but what's Biblical style in the first place? I seem to have gained a bit of its conscious later on (^ ^;.

Mystic Square/Music



So even those outside of Christianity can recognize that Judas is treacherous. Then, how can this person be saved, who committed such a deceitful, treacherous betrayal against our Lord and Saviour, how can he possibly be saved? Well, the same way that all of us are saved…

Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.



By believing in Jesus Christ with faith alone. His sacrifice, the blood on the cross, is sufficient to wash away all sins. Even if Judas is in Sheol, the realm of the dead, after his suicide, he can still believe in Christ Jesus and have the Holy Spirit enter his body, so he can be made clean to go to Heaven. This will happen, as the Bible tells us that Christ shall be all in all! Yes, even in the most treacherous of traitors!

1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all His enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.



All traitors in the whole world will become believers in Christ and be washed of all their sins! This includes Judas Iscariot! Everyone, ever, that has existed, exists, will exist, thus will guaranteed become believers in Jesus and all of them will have permanent life! Each and every one of those who have committed any act of betrayal will be washed of their sin by the holy blood of Christ and therefore allowed to enter the gates of Heaven into the holy city of New Jerusalem.

Psalm 30:5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning.

Judas Iscariot may have been weeping, battered by grief for a moment. This weeping may have led him to suicide. But eventually, he will be saved. He will have faith in Christ Jesus as the saviour for his sins.

Luke 15:4: "What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it?"

Judas Iscariot is like that lost sheep. Even if 99% of people on Earth are saved, if Judas Iscariot, if even the most treacherous traitors are not saved, Jesus Christ will not stop saving people until 100% of 100% of people on Earth are saved. All = all. 100% = 100%. We are all sheep to the Lord, and He is our Holy Shepard. We will all have faith in Him, the Lord of Hosts, and be washed from death, and be made clean with permanent life.

Revelation 5:13: "And I [John] heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, `To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!"'

Did not read all prior posts so I do not know if this was already spoken of.

Judas is lost forever.

Jesus called him the son of perdition.

Judas was never saved (Jesus called him a demon)

Judas never repented biblically. though it says in the KJV he repented, the Greek word used is meta mellomai which means to feel bad, while the Greek word for biblical repentance is metanoia which means to change you rmind.

Judas could have been forgiven, but wasn't.

 

[Sigma]

Will Judas Iscariot be saved? Yes, eventually this Judas will believe in Jesus Christ with faith alone and be saved permanently. And yes, I am aware that this Judas committed suicide.

In short, in the 1940's Maria Valtorta was chosen by Jesus to be His "pen," to show Her scenes from His public life, beginning with His birth and ending after His resurrection, then write all she heard, saw, and was told by Him to say. All her writings were compiled into a total of five volumes entitled: The Gospels As They Were Revealed To Me, or The Poem of the Man-God. They are a loving gift from Jesus that gives a more detailed look into the stories we read about in the Bible and others, including the scene of the death of Judas Iscariot on March 31st, 1944, which you can read about in full in The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. V, ch. 601, pp. 292-296. Below is an excerpt of Jesus's commentary on Judas's act of betrayal, suicide, and eternal fate:

Too many people think that Judas did something of little importance. Some even go to the extent of saying that he is well deserving, because Redemption would not have taken place without him, and that he is therefore justified in the eyes of God.

I solemnly tell you that, if Hell did not already exist and was not perfect in its torments, it would have been created even more dreadful and eternal for Judas, because of all sinners and damned souls, his is the most damned and the biggest sinner, and throughout eternity there will be no mitigation of his sentence.

Remorse could have also saved him, if he had turned remorse into repentance. But, he would not repent, and to the first crime of betrayal, still compatible because of the great mercy that is My loving weakness, he added blasphemy, resistance to the voices of Grace, that still wanted to speak to him through recollections, through terrors, through My Blood and My mantle, through My glances, through the traces of the institution of the Eucharist, through the words of My Mother. He resisted everything. He wanted to resist. As he had wanted to betray. As he wanted to curse. As he wanted to commit suicide.

It is one's will that matters in things. Both in good and in evil. When one falls without the will to follow, I forgive.

He who is guilty, sees shadows of fear in everything. It is his conscience that creates them. Then satan instigates such shadows, which still might bring a heart to repent, and turns them into horrible ghosts that lead to despair. And despair leads to the last crime: suicide. What is the use of throwing away the price of betrayal, when such deprivation is only the fruit of wrath and is not corroborated by a righteous will of repentance? Only in such case the act of divesting oneself of the fruits of evil deeds becomes meritorious. But he did not do that. A useless sacrifice.

Meditate on the power of free will, of which you are the absolute arbiters. Through it you can have Heaven or Hell. Meditate on what persisting in sin means. — Jesus to Maria Valtorta

 

[Hobie]

Is Judas saved? Only God can truly look at the conditions of the heart to know if someone believed in Jesus Christ with faith alone and gained permanent salvation. As it is the Holy Spirit, who is God, that is inside a person dwelling that makes a person clean of all sins.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,



Let’s get more specific, and know that I am referring to Judas Iscariot here

Jesus answered, “It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish.” Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.



However, if we assume that this Judas, of Iscariot, is not saved, then arises another question.



Will Judas Iscariot be saved? Yes, eventually this Judas will believe in Jesus Christ with faith alone and be saved permanently. And yes, I am aware that this Judas committed suicide.

Matthew 27:1 5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.



And yes I am aware that Judas Iscariot was the one who betrayed Jesus Christ.

Luke 22:47 While he was still speaking a crowd came up, and the man who was called Judas, one of the Twelve, was leading them. He approached Jesus to kiss him, 48 but Jesus asked him, “Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?”



And you’re probably wondering how a traitor like Judas can receive salvation? When his act of betrayal became so popular that it has a whole Wikipedia page on it?



Kiss of Judas - Wikipedia

Justus Knecht comments on Judas' kiss writing,

He did not refuse his treacherous kiss: He suffered His sacred Face to be touched by the lips of this vile traitor, and He even called him: “Friend!” “I have always treated you as My friend”, He meant to imply, “why therefore do you come now at the head of My enemies, and betray Me to them by a kiss!” This loving treatment on the part of our Lord was to the ungrateful traitor a last hour of grace. Jesus gave him to understand that He still loved him in spite of his vile crime, and was ready to forgive him.



Despite this treacherous kiss, Jesus was ready to forgive Judas! And Jesus Christ is still ready, waiting with open arms, ready to forgive Judas Iscariot. All people will become righteous friends of the Lord, like how Abraham believed in the Lord and was seen as a friend of righteousness.

Romans 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”



When his act of betrayal became so noteworthy that it appears on the dictionary? Literally as something specifically defined as “deceitful and treacherous”.

Judas kiss



Judas kiss

Also found in: Idioms, Wikipedia.

a deceitful and treacherous kiss.

an act appearing to be an act of friendship, which is in fact harmful to the recipient.



The term “Judas Kiss” has even gone beyond the Biblical Christianity and has been used to describe “treacherous natures” in general by the general masses, such as with the fictional (aka fake, false) human made Japanese danmaku 弾幕 だんまく series “Touhou” 東方 Though I do enjoy this series, like the music.

Touhou PC-98 東方 5 Kaikidan ~ Mystic Square怪綺談 とうほうかいきだんMai's マイTheme: Treacherous Maiden ~ Judas Kiss. 裏切りの少女Released 1998-12-30 (Comiket 55)

The creator of Touhou, Jun’ya “ZUN” Ōta 太田 順也, and of this music track describes it 東方幻想的音楽 as

This is "Treacherous Maiden ~ Judas Kiss" from Mystic Square. … I was thinking of arranging in Biblical style as the title implies(kiss of Judas), but what's Biblical style in the first place? I seem to have gained a bit of its conscious later on (^ ^;.

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So even those outside of Christianity can recognize that Judas is treacherous. Then, how can this person be saved, who committed such a deceitful, treacherous betrayal against our Lord and Saviour, how can he possibly be saved? Well, the same way that all of us are saved…

Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.



By believing in Jesus Christ with faith alone. His sacrifice, the blood on the cross, is sufficient to wash away all sins. Even if Judas is in Sheol, the realm of the dead, after his suicide, he can still believe in Christ Jesus and have the Holy Spirit enter his body, so he can be made clean to go to Heaven. This will happen, as the Bible tells us that Christ shall be all in all! Yes, even in the most treacherous of traitors!

1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all His enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.



All traitors in the whole world will become believers in Christ and be washed of all their sins! This includes Judas Iscariot! Everyone, ever, that has existed, exists, will exist, thus will guaranteed become believers in Jesus and all of them will have permanent life! Each and every one of those who have committed any act of betrayal will be washed of their sin by the holy blood of Christ and therefore allowed to enter the gates of Heaven into the holy city of New Jerusalem.

Psalm 30:5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning.

Judas Iscariot may have been weeping, battered by grief for a moment. This weeping may have led him to suicide. But eventually, he will be saved. He will have faith in Christ Jesus as the saviour for his sins.

Luke 15:4: "What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it?"

Judas Iscariot is like that lost sheep. Even if 99% of people on Earth are saved, if Judas Iscariot, if even the most treacherous traitors are not saved, Jesus Christ will not stop saving people until 100% of 100% of people on Earth are saved. All = all. 100% = 100%. We are all sheep to the Lord, and He is our Holy Shepard. We will all have faith in Him, the Lord of Hosts, and be washed from death, and be made clean with permanent life.

Revelation 5:13: "And I [John] heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, `To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!"'

Matthew 27:3
Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

So the question is really did Judas repent of his sin, or just the effects of his betrayal?

 

[Behold]

Is Judas saved ?

A.) = NO

1.) First of all, In John 6:70, Jesus stated that Judas is "A Devil".

He didnt say..>"Like a devil" or, "is behaving as a Devil".

That's very important to note.

Also, there are no saved Devil's.., and if the Lord says someone is a Devil, then that is a problem, as that means their Father is the Devil.

So, if your father is the Devil, then God is not your Father.

Also.

2.) In John 20:22, Jesus gave the Holy Spirit to the 11. And why does that matter? Its because "he that hath not the Spirit of God, is none of God's".

= JUDAS was not there...


Finally.

3.) Judas killed Himself before Jesus died for His sin.

That is "Strike 3".

And what is the final answer for Judas?

4.) You can't be born again in Hell.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

In answer to OP

No
Not only did Judas betray Christ but he also committed suicide.