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Patrick1966

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Harold, many Christians become very upset when they learn that God loves everybody and won't allow anyone to remain lost forever and tortured for eternity.
 

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Isaiah 40:5 "The glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and ALL FLESH shall see it together; for the mouth of the Lord has spoken."
I believe this verse is talking about the return of Christ when it says "all flesh shall see". It's talking about those still living in the flesh. While I agree that ALL will be saved, eventually, this verse isn't talking about that.
 

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Other NDE’s might show the false doctrine of reincarnation, where you can lose your salvation, as opposed to the truth of resurrection, where once you are saved, you are always saved.
This caught my eye. A comparison of the following verses disproves OSAS:

Matthew 24:12-13 KJV
1 John 5:3 KJV
Romans 8:7 KJV

These "many" of Matthew 24:12 who allow widespread iniquity to turn their agape love cold and dead which leaves them unable to endure to the end and be saved...ARE SAINTS...because "agape" can only be demonstrated by those who happily keeping God's commandments, while the wicked can't keep them even if they wanted to. What say you?
 

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Hey there, forum folks! So, I stumbled upon this post about near-death experiences and whether forever conscious torment is possible. Well, it's a pretty deep topic, but here's my take on it. I'm no expert, but from what I've read and heard, near-death experiences can vary greatly from person to person. Some people describe peaceful moments, while others mention intense emotions. It's a subjective thing, you know? As for forever conscious torment, well, I like to think that our Memorial is shaped by the positive moments and connections we make in life rather than dwelling on eternal suffering.
 

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Hey there, forum folks! So, I stumbled upon this post about near-death experiences and whether forever conscious torment is possible. Well, it's a pretty deep topic, but here's my take on it. I'm no expert, but from what I've read and heard, near-death experiences can vary greatly from person to person. Some people describe peaceful moments, while others mention intense emotions. It's a subjective thing, you know? As for forever conscious torment, well, I like to think that our Memorial is shaped by the positive moments and connections we make in life rather than dwelling on eternal suffering.
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Forever Conscious Torment Near Death Experiences are Impossible​

I'd have to agree with this statement.

Anyone who "returns" being resuscitated or the like was not dead, did not go through the judgment, was not cast into the lake of fire, did not remain forever there.

So yes, I agree. No one in this world - short of a special act from God, but the Bible tells us when He will be doing this - can possibly have experienced the fires of the second death.

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