69,195 reasons I am NOT a christian Zionist

[Luther7]

You are playing right into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood narrative.
Long before Hamas existed and before Netanyahu had ANY political power, Israel approved humanitarian aid BY QATAR to Palistinians in Gaza during the 70s-80s.
Hamas was not created until 1987. This was allowed because the Israeli government preferred negotiations with them rather than the PLO and Arafat.
Stop promoting the leftist lies.

Hamas was created and supported by Israel because Israel did not want to negotiate with the PLO and Arafat which was the legitimate government of Palestine which would legitimately come to negotiations on a two-state solution with the backing of many other countries. That's pretty easy to understand.


The Oslo Accords (1993)

The peak of the PLO's commitment to the two-state solution came in 1993 with the signing of the Oslo Accords. In official letters of mutual recognition:
• The PLO, led by Yasser Arafat, officially recognized the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security and explicitly renounced terrorism and violence.
• Israel, led by Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, recognized the PLO as the official representative of the Palestinian people.
This agreement established the Palestinian Authority (PA) to serve as an interim government in parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, with the intention that future negotiations would culminate in a permanent two-state resolution.


Current Status

The peace process stalled completely after the collapse of the Camp David Summit in 2000, the onset of the Second Intifada, and the subsequent political fracturing of Palestinian leadership (where the Islamist group Hamas, which historically rejected the Oslo framework, seized control of the Gaza Strip from the PLO-aligned PA in 2007). While the PLO and PA maintain their formal diplomatic stance supporting a two-state solution, modern political realities, expanding settlements, and leadership changes have left the proposal stalled.

(You see, it's very obvious who does not want peace. At the very least Hamas is supported by Israel to indefinitely delay any real peace negotiations. They don't want peace. They want full control of the Middle East which you can see they've been doing since 9/11.)

 

[JimKnox]

Hamas was created and supported by Israel because Israel did not want to negotiate with the PLO and Arafat which was the legitimate government of Palestine which would legitimately come to negotiations on a two-state solution with the backing of many other countries. That's pretty easy to understand.


The Oslo Accords (1993)

The peak of the PLO's commitment to the two-state solution came in 1993 with the signing of the Oslo Accords. In official letters of mutual recognition:
• The PLO, led by Yasser Arafat, officially recognized the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security and explicitly renounced terrorism and violence.
• Israel, led by Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, recognized the PLO as the official representative of the Palestinian people.
This agreement established the Palestinian Authority (PA) to serve as an interim government in parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, with the intention that future negotiations would culminate in a permanent two-state resolution.


Current Status

The peace process stalled completely after the collapse of the Camp David Summit in 2000, the onset of the Second Intifada, and the subsequent political fracturing of Palestinian leadership (where the Islamist group Hamas, which historically rejected the Oslo framework, seized control of the Gaza Strip from the PLO-aligned PA in 2007). While the PLO and PA maintain their formal diplomatic stance supporting a two-state solution, modern political realities, expanding settlements, and leadership changes have left the proposal stalled.

(You see, it's very obvious who does not want peace. At the very least Hamas is supported by Israel to indefinitely delay any real peace negotiations. They don't want peace. They want full control of the Middle East which you can see they've been doing since 9/11.)

That's retarded.
Israel did not create Hamas.
I already proved that.
Like I said: you are playing right into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood.
<<<< this is me kicking your dust off my shoes.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Hamas was created and supported by Israel because Israel did not want to negotiate with the PLO and Arafat which was the legitimate government of Palestine which would legitimately come to negotiations on a two-state solution with the backing of many other countries. That's pretty easy to understand.

When have Hamas said that? And do you remember what Arafat said?

The Oslo Accords (1993)

The peak of the PLO's commitment to the two-state solution came in 1993 with the signing of the Oslo Accords. In official letters of mutual recognition:
• The PLO, led by Yasser Arafat, officially recognized the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security and explicitly renounced terrorism and violence.
• Israel, led by Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, recognized the PLO as the official representative of the Palestinian people.
This agreement established the Palestinian Authority (PA) to serve as an interim government in parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, with the intention that future negotiations would culminate in a permanent two-state resolution.


Current Status

The peace process stalled completely after the collapse of the Camp David Summit in 2000, the onset of the Second Intifada, and the subsequent political fracturing of Palestinian leadership (where the Islamist group Hamas, which historically rejected the Oslo framework, seized control of the Gaza Strip from the PLO-aligned PA in 2007). While the PLO and PA maintain their formal diplomatic stance supporting a two-state solution, modern political realities, expanding settlements, and leadership changes have left the proposal stalled.

(You see, it's very obvious who does not want peace. At the very least Hamas is supported by Israel to indefinitely delay any real peace negotiations. They don't want peace. They want full control of the Middle East which you can see they've been doing since 9/11.)

Palestine has only existed as a 'state' for the 25 years of British Mandate and as Gaza and the West Bank which came into existence in 1948. The majority population argument is all very well except for the continued persecution or oppression by the Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman Empires (no wonder) although one must accept that Jews were generally safer under the Ottoman Empire than in Europe, albeit as second class citizens along with Christians and Druze.

 

[Debp]

Maybe you don't want to know the vile creatures behind it.

It sure doesn't sound like you love your neighbor as yourself. While I don't agree with Islam, I don't call Muslims vile or other names. But you seem to take delight in calling Jews names.

 

[Debp]

<<<< this is me kicking your dust off my shoes.

That's probably the right idea.

 

[TLHKAJ]

In the Hamas charter it says to kill every Jew, even worldwide.

And the Jews (those who say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of satan) will kill anyone (by beheading) who worships Jesus Christ. You are supporting the Antichrist Beast system.

 

[TLHKAJ]

The question remains, how many of these people will reject the Jew world order, with its noahide laws that they are feverishly starting to put in place? I'm speaking very plainly because the time really is here. And there will be a separation. My Hope is that being in a forum such as this there will be some attention being given to this information.

Sadly, despite the vast amount of information that has been out about the Noahide Congress and the worldwide implementation of Noahide laws, it seems most professing Christians have given themselves to serve the beast system. They will fall right in line ..... lock step with the beast.

 

[TLHKAJ]

It sure doesn't sound like you love your neighbor as yourself. While I don't agree with Islam, I don't call Muslims vile or other names. But you seem to take delight in calling Jews names.

Why are you and other professing Christians in support of murdering thousands of children in the name of "defending Israel"?