A New Transformation is required for the modern Church

[VictoryinJesus]

Thus, the wicked servant saves his life in the world for a time, but looses eternal life.

No he laid it up in a napkin...or buried it. How can we even discuss transformation without seeing who we really are without the mercy of God. We are that wicked servant. You want to keep the parables and the same Lord. But as with when Christ described rebirth...the mother and father do not remain the same in the birth from above. Who would give to one who has been faithful in nothing...increased in nothing? God. God gives to that which is counted as nothing because it is based on His Son as the faithful witness and not the faithfulness of what is dead. It is all in how we view the wicked unprofitable servant because in the parable he has come to realize it is too heavy and too burdensome to carry and make profitable and fears...tormented of what will happen when his Lord appears...so he laid it up in a napkin, or buried it. The parable sounds good to promote the flesh and its good faithfulness where man was the decider of whom he let into the temple of God. No more. Again you want to see the parable as not strictly about money exchangers but gifts? Yet keep the same mother and Father and the voice of wrath where nothing can come near without being thrust through. What is despised is lost of our own status in we are that wicked unprofitable servant whom God came to separate by entering into His death ...this separation even seen in the tomb of the napkin folded and off to itself.

1 Corinthians 4:1-9 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. [2] Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. [3] But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. [4] For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. [5] Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. [6] And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. [7] For who maketh thee to differ from another ? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it ? [8] Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you. [9] For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.


That unprofitable servant is there...God is the only profit and increase and it is not based on how “faithful” the unprofitable servant is but
Psalm 89:1-7 I will sing of the mercies of the Lord for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations. [2] For I have said, Mercy shall be built up for ever: thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens. [3] I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant, [4] Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah. [5] And the heavens shall praise thy wonders, O Lord : thy faithfulness also in the congregation of the saints. [6] For who in the heaven can be compared unto the Lord ? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the Lord ? [7] God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in reverence of all them that are about him.


That is a lot but before any transformation comes...we need to get over ourselves “For who maketh thee to differ from another ? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it ?”

God makes grow what can not grow in and of itself. Even a dead womb ...He declares what is impossible with men, is not impossible for God.

 

[ScottA]

Sorry, ScottA, the Parables are about Satan's influence through his faithful servants during the first 1,000 years of the Millennium Age when Satan is locked up in the Bottomless Pit, along with the other wicked fallen heavenly hosts and the kings and armies of the heathen gentiles that are judged at Armageddon at the end of this present age.

Jesus in both Matthew and Luke is telling us what the Everlasting Kingdom of God will be like during the first 1,000 years after its establishment.

ScottA, you are spiritualising the Bible so much, such that you are make everything about Christ, but the reality is that not everything recorded in the scriptures is about Christ.

Does Christ reap where he/God has not sown. This description of the lead character in both parables points directly at Satan. If you believe otherwise, you are missing the context of why both parable were told.

Shalom

PS: - Perhaps "the readers of this forum" will read Matthew 25:14-30 and Luke 19:11-27 and thereby test what spirit is in both of us.

Sorry is as sorry does.

But Yes, I spiritualize all things, for God is spirit.

And to all, please do test by what spirits these things have been spoken, and know the truth.

 

[ScottA]

No he laid it up in a napkin...or buried it. How can we even discuss transformation without seeing who we really are without the mercy of God. We are that wicked servant. You want to keep the parables and the same Lord. But as with when Christ described rebirth...the mother and father do not remain the same in the birth from above. Who would give to one who has been faithful in nothing...increased in nothing? God. God gives to that which is counted as nothing because it is based on His Son as the faithful witness and not the faithfulness of what is dead. It is all in how we view the wicked unprofitable servant because in the parable he has come to realize it is too heavy and too burdensome to carry and make profitable and fears...tormented of what will happen when his Lord appears...so he laid it up in a napkin, or buried it. The parable sounds good to promote the flesh and its good faithfulness where man was the decider of whom he let into the temple of God. No more. Again you want to see the parable as not strictly about money exchangers but gifts? Yet keep the same mother and Father and the voice of wrath where nothing can come near without being thrust through. What is despised is lost of our own status in we are that wicked unprofitable servant whom God came to separate by entering into His death ...this separation even seen in the tomb of the napkin folded and off to itself.

1 Corinthians 4:1-9 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. [2] Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. [3] But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. [4] For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. [5] Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. [6] And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. [7] For who maketh thee to differ from another ? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it ? [8] Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you. [9] For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.


That unprofitable servant is there...God is the only profit and increase and it is not based on how “faithful” the unprofitable servant is but
Psalm 89:1-7 I will sing of the mercies of the Lord for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations. [2] For I have said, Mercy shall be built up for ever: thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens. [3] I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant, [4] Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah. [5] And the heavens shall praise thy wonders, O Lord : thy faithfulness also in the congregation of the saints. [6] For who in the heaven can be compared unto the Lord ? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the Lord ? [7] God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in reverence of all them that are about him.


That is a lot but before any transformation comes...we need to get over ourselves “For who maketh thee to differ from another ? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it ?”

God makes grow what can not grow in and of itself. Even a dead womb ...He declares what is impossible with men, is not impossible for God.

No...you have misread and misunderstand the parable. The wicked servant is left with nothing.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

No...you have misread and misunderstand the parable. The wicked servant is left with nothing.

Who was he speaking the parable to? Which ones would the Pharisees claim to be? How did He bring it to nothing? 1 Corinthians 1:26-29 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called : [27] But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; [28] And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought (nothing)things that are: [29] That no flesh should glory in his presence.

Again what ministration was Christ speaking of...having not yet gone to the crucifix? Same as the dog that approached Him and He told her the children’s bread was not to be given to dogs. Timing. Philippians 3:7-10 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. [8] Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, [9] And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: [10] That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

Is the parable speaking of “mine own righteousness which is of the law” or “the faith of Christ...the righteousness which is of God.” Maybe you are right and the whole parable on usury and the moneychangers is speaking of the righteousness which is of God.