A question about belief

[Entanglement]

Agreed.

Do you know why I posted the word "Frustrating"

 

[2 Chr. 34:19]

I myself have read the Bible extensively, to the point that I disregarded common sense. If I didn't step back and rethink the thing's I believed in some time ago, I would be a hollowed out shell of a human now. But that's me, not you or anyone else.

I completely understand. Everyone’s different, and Sometimes people can get self-righteous...studying Theology-too much study.
Common sense-The Lord’s O/T Book is so practical, but I didn’t see that before.
I find a chapter a day works, but that’s just me :)

 

[farouk]

V. True. He’s real, but This is revealed not by flesh and blood, but by His Father in Heaven

@2 Chr. 34:19 We need to receive the witness of Scripture, which is full of the Person and work of the Lord Jesus.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I how zero idea how you go from
"Bob is Joe's son. Bob loves Joe and knows that Joe will never betray him."
to thinking that "Jesus can betray me". That's the literal opposite of what I said.

Frustrating.

Agreed.

Do you know why I posted the word "Frustrating"

Because this communication thing is being frustrating for you, as well as for me. I don't know how you go from me saying "never betray" to thinking that "Jesus can betray me". But you clearly go there, resulting in frustration for the both of us.

 

[2 Chr. 34:19]

Did Jesus as the model of a perfect human have to believe in the father while he lived on earth? Was that the way he saw his other-self who was abiding in the heavens?

I’m not sure what you’re saying. Do you mean, as Jesus is G_D, did He believe in Himself? Hi there btw :)

 

[Entanglement]

I completely understand. Everyone’s different, and Sometimes people can get self-righteous...studying Theology-too much study.
Common sense-The Lord’s O/T Book is so practical, but I didn’t see that before.
I find a chapter a day works, but that’s just me :)

However, let me tell you what I did learn about Jesus over the years I studied the Gospels.

Jesus was not shallow naysayer as Christian's are the world over today. He did care for those who were with him (As his own children) But you won't find Christian's doing that (Because they've forgotten how to do that) I know this because they don't actually care about knowing anything about them, they only care about their children believing the same things they do. (Mind you, they're not your children if you want to play the God card)

What else needs to be said?

 

[Entanglement]

Because this communication thing is being frustrating for you, as well as for me. I don't know how you go from me saying "never betray" to thinking that "Jesus can betray me". But you clearly go there, resulting in frustration for the both of us.

Stop assuming things on limited information.

 

[2 Chr. 34:19]

However, let me tell you what I did learn about Jesus over the years I studied the Gospels.

Jesus was not shallow naysayer as Christian's are the world over today. He did care for those who were with him (As his own children) But you won't find Christian's doing that (Because they've forgotten how to do that) I know this because they don't actually care about knowing anything about them, they only care about their children believing the same things they do. (Mind you, they're not your children if you want to play the God card)

What else needs to be said?

Yes. It is hard to really get to know people on a forum though (feel free to private chat, my hubby says he’s ok with that :) )
Pretty sure we ‘believers’ lost the plot, but imo the early church lost it within a decade. It’s been 2000 yrs!
That’s why we keep on reading The Gospels-to be transformed-to walk, talk and love, like He did. The Lord bless you and keep you.....

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Stop assuming things on limited information.

I very much welcome any help on figuring out why/how you take my comment about “never betraying” to mean “suggest betrayal “. I do find this frustrating

 

[Entanglement]

I very much welcome any help on figuring out why/how you take my comment about “never betraying” to mean “suggest betrayal “. I do find this frustrating

No thanks.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

No thanks.

Ok then.

 

[Entanglement]

Yes. It is hard to really get to know people on a forum though (feel free to private chat, my hubby says he’s ok with that :) )
Pretty sure we ‘believers’ lost the plot, but imo the early church lost it within a decade. It’s been 2000 yrs!
That’s why we keep on reading The Gospels-to be transformed-to walk, talk and love, like He did. The Lord bless you and keep you.....

It's hard to get to know people online? (Please explain how) Why does your husband get to decide who you should know or not? (I know beyond doubt you are not happy about that) About the rest of your comments regarding Christian's and the early church, I am surprised that you think that in only 10 short year's the church went pair shaped.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

@Entanglement , let me know if you want to talk about anything.

 

[2 Chr. 34:19]

It's hard to get to know people online? (Please explain how) Why does your husband get to decide who you should know or not? (I know beyond doubt you are not happy about that) About the rest of your comments regarding Christian's and the early church, I am surprised that you think that in only 10 short year's the church went pair shaped.

I prefer to meet face to face, (so can tell if someone is lying). Online, I can’t. People can be secretive.
The husband is (or should be) head of the woman. As you’ve read the Bible ‘extensively’ you’ll already know this. My happiness Shouldn’t concern you. How do I know if you are a man or woman?
Imo Hierarchy entered the church early on. My guess it started approximately after the first decade. :)

 

[Entanglement]

I prefer to meet face to face, (so can tell if someone is lying). Online, I can’t. People can be secretive.
The husband is (or should be) head of the woman. As you’ve read the Bible ‘extensively’ you’ll already know this. My happiness Shouldn’t concern you. How do I know if you are a man or woman?
Imo Hierarchy entered the church early on. My guess it started approximately after the first decade. :)

You're right, it's no concern of my own.

 

[Entanglement]

@Entanglement , let me know if you want to talk about anything.

Alright.