A Spirit of Unbelief

[Ritajanice]

So what if people are birthed in the Spirit. Is that enough

Is it enough...of course it’s enough....we are a child of the Most High...we are heirs with Christ.....like any new babe who has just become birthed into the Kingdom of God...this is the beginning of our spiritual journey with God through the Holy Spirit.

We grow and mature in the Spirit ....it’s Wonderful growing and maturing in Christ....so much to learn from the Spirit, it’s breathtakingly amazing....but, it’s not easy....but oh so worth every minute/ second....being that child of God.

 

[Ritajanice]

You've received a sample of grace...good. But that is not enough for you to justify yourself. You are in the race of faith whether you accept that or not. When you defend yourself you are relying on the part of you that needs to go to the cross.

What on Earth are you talking about, a sample of grace?


That’s not even BIBLICAL??


I am a child of God...only a “ Born Again “ will see the Kingdom of God...we are in his spiritual realm....his Holy Spirit leads and guides us....we start to walk in the Spirit as soon as we have been birthed by God and not before....

I walk in faith and am led by the Holy Spirit and everything is in God’s timing!

Defend myself?

Many have failed that very race. Fail the grace...fail the race.

Sell all and buy the truth to receive the full measure of grace that overcomes the world....into a walk as Jesus walked.

Don't be smug and arrogant...humble yourself. No one becomes justified by a free gift. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Fear the Lord.

A Born Again has been birthed in the Spirit...whoever the Father gives to the Son, he will NEVER lose one, not one...

John 6:39-40​

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39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Smug and arrogant...I’m quoting scripture....i in the flesh know and am NOTHING!

Part of you that needs to Go to the cross?...

Jesus went to the cross for me and my sins...it’s through the death of Jesus that one is saved....Born Again.

Without the death of Jesus...there would be NO way back to God....so Praise His only Son....who took the sin of the world.....only JESUS is worthy of PRAISE!!

 

[Episkopos]

My duty towards God is to warn the Body of Christ of the coming judgment on the church. If I don't warn people, I have blood on my hands. If people revile my words, then their blood is on their own head.

A disciple of Christ knows the fear of the Lord. He knows that the judgment on those who have failed the grace of God is hard indeed. To whom much is given more is required. It's time for believers to wake up. The time is drawing near. And there will be no going back to fix the apathy and smugness with which people now justify themselves for having received a free sample that is meant to draw them into a full surrender to Christ.

 

[Ritajanice]

My duty towards God is to warn the Body of Christ of the coming judgment on the church. If I don't warn people, I have blood on my hands. If people revile my words, then their blood is on their own head.

A disciple of Christ knows the fear of the Lord. He knows that the judgment on those who have failed the grace of God is hard indeed. To whom much is given more is required. It's time for believers to wake up. The time is drawing near. And there will be no going back to fix the apathy and smugness with which people now justify themselves for having received a free sample that is meant to draw them into a full surrender to Christ.

You are to warn the body of Christ....says God.

If you don’t warn people ,I will have blood on my hands, what does this mean even?

Says YOU and only YOU......I’m not receiving anything from you....imo/ belief...

Jesus sheep know his voice, thank GOD!!

John 10:27-28​

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27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

 

[amigo de christo]

There's "Bible Jesus" the Jesus that people assume they know. And then there's the living Jesus...who very few encounter.

THEREIN lies YOUR PROBLEM . so allow me some parting words . SINCE WHEN DOES THE LIVING JESUS
CONTRADICT THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE .
GO YE AND LEARN THAT EPI . YOu have been decieved , and i wont allow you to decieve one more soul epi .
Not that i can personally stop you . But i would invite you to read what pual had to say about two folks
who were blaspheming . HE said something the church has long forgotten .
And my advice is you stop immediately what you are trying to do . My desire IS GOOD for you epi
as it is for ALL PEOPLE . what must be done will be done . Only i say this FIRST
in hopes you repent of your doctrine fast . Before it befalls you my friend .

 

[Marvelloustime]

THEREIN lies YOUR PROBLEM . so allow me some parting words . SINCE WHEN DOES THE LIVING JESUS
CONTRADICT THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE .
GO YE AND LEARN THAT EPI . YOu have been decieved , and i wont allow you to decieve one more soul epi .
Not that i can personally stop you . But i would invite you to read what pual had to say about two folks
who were blaspheming . HE said something the church has long forgotten .
And my advice is you stop immediately what you are trying to do . My desire IS GOOD for you epi
as it is for ALL PEOPLE . what must be done will be done . Only i say this FIRST
in hopes you repent of your doctrine fast . Before it befalls you my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

My duty towards God is to warn the Body of Christ of the coming judgment on the church. If I don't warn people, I have blood on my hands. If people revile my words, then their blood is on their own head.

A disciple of Christ knows the fear of the Lord. He knows that the judgment on those who have failed the grace of God is hard indeed. To whom much is given more is required. It's time for believers to wake up. The time is drawing near. And there will be no going back to fix the apathy and smugness with which people now justify themselves for having received a free sample that is meant to draw them into a full surrender to Christ.

ONLY YOU AINT TEACHING THE GRACE OF GOD . BELIEVE YE IN JESUS CHRIST is all PART OF THE GRACE OF GOD
by which through faith we are kept . FAITH IN HIM , not us epi , not our own cross yet no faith IN HE who was crucified ON IT .
HURRY and repent epi . Lest something come upon you

 

[Taken]

I disagree, @Taken.

Its probably cause I dont understand, and the sermon on the mountain with Jesus expresses that those who are poor in spirit are humble before God and calling out to him.

Those who are unbelievers dont do so… they dont have any belief… they have no rest and they dont trust in God, nor call out to him.

They are unable to find rest.


“Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: “Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness, Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, And saw My works forty years. Therefore I was angry with that generation, And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart, And they have not known My ways.’ So I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ” Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, while it is said: “Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.” For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.”
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Hebrews 3:7-19 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: “Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness, Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, An | New King James Version (NKJV) |

Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: “Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness, Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, An

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Hi Matthew `

Earthly human men begin their natural lives in “unbelief”, and are “poor in spirit”.
* Some “are humble and call out to Him”…
* Some “are are Not humble and call out to Him as a challenge for Him to show/reveal Himself, His Power”…
* Some are “not humble and Ignore Him”.
* Some are “not humble and call out to Him with contempt”.

The List goes on and on according to what individual men Believe and Choose “HOW” to call out “TO” God.

Calling out to God…
In Humbleness…
In a Challenge…
In Contempt…

The Lesson is about “HOW” an individual Calls out to God, is being revealed, that a natural born man, naturally born poor in spirit, is “supposed” to call out to God, IN HUMBLENESS.

Study of Scripture reveals “WHY”. ( which “IS” that individual man REVEALING: himself recognizing his own lowliness to his creator and maker and EXPRESSING (Humbleness) of his AWE and REVERENCE “TO” his creator and maker. )

Every man naturally begins “poor in spirit”…
Humbling oneself before God is the KEY that gets Gods attention for His consideration To “MAKE” that individual “RICH in spirit”.

Glory to God,
Take

 

[Taken]

You have to realize that once you've lowered the standard of Christ to beliefs...

Caution warning brother…

The primary bulk of the Better New Testament expressly hinges ON BELIEF (in God, in the One He sent)…and thereafter CONFESSING that Belief.

Soul salvation, Spirit quickening, Forgiveness, Body cleansing, Covering, Overcoming, Justification, Sanctification, Receipt of the SEED of God, (Baptism) Sealing, Redemption, Glorified Body…
WITH or WITHOUT the Lord God Almighty Forever ALL is contingent (of the Lord God’s Response) ON an individuals BELIEF.

Heb 7:
[22] By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

John 6:
[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Believing IS a man doing the works of God.
Confession of Belief IS a man doing a service unto God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[amigo de christo]

a religoin of anti christ has been as is amongst us even now as we speak .
It was even in the days of john , john who did all to try and protect
the church against it .
It has been in the world and amongst the ages throughout the centuries .
Now nigh the end it has been unleashed as a driving force to unite
ALL as one . It cometh in the name of love and unity .
But it knows neither the LOVE OF GOD nor the UNITY OF CHRIST .
Beware it my friends , for it begins as leaven always begins . Very small
but in time groweth till the whole be leavened .
Beware any and all who bring in the idea that all religoins
are serving the same GOD .
But it begins much smaller than that .
IT will begin to pump into the church the idea of doing good works
and trying to find common ground and unity . BEWARE IT .
For though it can speak some truths like we should do good works
the lie is seen within .
Beware it my friends . IF you hear words like finding common ground
building bridges , Community workers , alpha course
rick warrens purpose driven life .
IF you hear lots of speeches on love and yet YOU AINT HEARING
A LOT of sound biblical reminders , BEWARE .
IF men are saying things like Judge not a lot and the leaders wont correct
SIN and rather allow willful sinners to remain within the church
and overlook certain sins . YOU BESS RUN LIKE YOU NEVER RAN BEFORE RIGHT OUT of
that church . NOW do try and correct but if they aint heeding , RUN
and take as many with you as you can . IF you see within a church
the abraham peace accords , the abraham faith stuff getting preached
GET THE HECK OUT OF IT .
THEY are trying to UNITE THE RELIGOINS under a belief
we are serving the same GOD . ITS ALL A LIE
and its one I REFUSE TO HEED . I stand with CHRIST and the apostles .
And while they all preached about doing good
THEY ALL PREACHED THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
Not some prophet and not just a way to GOD . BUT THE ONLY WAY TO GOD
and that ONE MUST BELIEVE HIM to be the CHRIST .
SORRY but JESUS aint the deputy of muhammed . JESUS WOULD
have rebuked that CLOWN that demon .
HE would have told muhammed the same things
HE told even THE JEWS . YE claim to BELIEVE IN MOSES
YET HAD YOU TRULY BELIEVED MOSES you would have BELIEVED ME .
AND I sure dont seem to remember JESUS
preaching OH it dont matter what you believe or what ye follow
SO long as ye had love you were fine . DONT SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT COMING FROM JESUS
or from any apostel . IN fact
the one apostel who preached more on love in his letter
THAT WOULD BE JOHN
SURE HAD a lot to say about what an anti christ was
and sure SEEMED BIG TIME BENT on saying YE MUST BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
I WILL FOLLOW NONE OF THEM OTHERS who try and omit the DIRE FACT
we must BELIEVE ON JESUS . AINT GONNA DO IT .
AND i refuse to follow those who even do preach YE must believe
and YET they seem to make JESUS the ministir of SIN . THEY ALL FALSE
and not a one of them KNOWETH JESUS CHRIST . And tis high time lambs
expose them and the lie and point ONLY TO JESUS and the TRUTH

 

[Episkopos]

Caution warning brother…

The primary bulk of the Better New Testament expressly hinges ON BELIEF (in God, in the One He sent)…and thereafter CONFESSING that Belief.

Soul salvation, Spirit quickening, Forgiveness, Body cleansing, Covering, Overcoming, Justification, Sanctification, Receipt of the SEED of God, (Baptism) Sealing, Redemption, Glorified Body…
WITH or WITHOUT the Lord God Almighty Forever ALL is contingent (of the Lord God’s Response) ON an individuals BELIEF.

Heb 7:
[22] By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

John 6:
[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Believing IS a man doing the works of God.
Confession of Belief IS a man doing a service unto God.

Glory to God,
Taken

Beliefs or faith? If we had religious beliefs the size of a mustard seed we could move mountains???

Beliefs are in the realm of religion. They come from the temporal part of us...what we think or believe or have an opinion about. Of course beliefs are inevitable....that we take on certain dogmatic stances we think are correct.

UNLESS...we learn to not put ANY confidence in the flesh. Our beliefs will always clash with the beliefs of others. If we raise up beliefs as anything but the flesh at work...we end up with thousands of denominations.

Yet there is only one Body.

Faith, on the other hand is towards God. God loves faith and rewards that faith with His grace. Miracles happen by faith. The chiefest gift of grace IMHO is to be translated into the higher walk...translated into the kingdom realm...to walk as Jesus walked. (Seek first the kingdom)

The mountain that is moved in that case is the outer man and any and all human understanding. The Bible often relates mountains and hills to our pride. The valleys we can relate to the disheartened, the downcast. So we are to take heart..and be lifted up from the valleys. We are to humble ourselves...bringing down the pride of our lofty claims and ideas...making the way straight before the Lord. :)

 

[Hepzibah]

The chiefest gift of grace IMHO is to be translated into the higher walk...translated into the kingdom realm...to walk as Jesus walked. (Seek first the kingdom)

I'm coming round to that idea - two levels in the kingdom and it fits in with the early church teaching.

Purification: where most believers are, with the Holy Spirit trying to convict them of sin, which is the state they are in if not in the next level Illumination. Most quench His work.

Illumination: when one responds to the Holy Spirit and repents of their compromised walk, having lost heir first love soon after coming to Christ. This correlates with the breathing on of the Holy Spirit when Jesus appeared after His resurrection. Some Orthodox correlate it to the Transfiguration. This stage is where one can avoid sin.

Union: where one is able to walk as Jesus walks, but is by grace and is whenever God grants it. One cannot hold onto it or re-enter through human strength. These are saints ie not sinners anymore.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

How dare some to destroy the very fabric of faith in Jesus!

Hebrews 11
[22] By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.
[23] By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment.
[24] By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;
[25] Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
[26] Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
[27] By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.
[28] Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
[29] By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.
[30] By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
[31] By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
[32] And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
[33] Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
[34] Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
[35] Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
[36] And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
[37] They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;
[38] (Of whom the world was not worthy they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
[39] And these ALL, having obtained a good report THROUGH FAITH, received the promise:
[40] God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

IT IS ONLY BY....FAITH....THAT WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD!

 

[amigo de christo]

How dare some to destroy the very fabric of faith in Jesus!

Hebrews 11
[22] By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.
[23] By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment.
[24] By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;
[25] Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
[26] Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
[27] By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.
[28] Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
[29] By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.
[30] By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
[31] By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
[32] And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
[33] Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
[34] Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
[35] Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
[36] And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
[37] They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;
[38] (Of whom the world was not worthy they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
[39] And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
[40] God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

IT IS ONLY BY....FAITH....THAT WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD!

Look at WHY she got fired and look who is also speaking against her . THE ALL INCLUSIVE FALSE LOVEY DO charlatons .
WELL , the true lambs , WE GONNA STAND ON JESUS CHRIST ALONE SISTER .
You just watch this and see WHY , see the WHY she was fired . Exactly sister .

 

[L.A.M.B.]

People don't like the light nor the truth for it reveals the darkness in their souls!

Look at WHY she got fired and look who is also speaking against her . THE ALL INCLUSIVE FALSE LOVEY DO charlatons .
WELL , the true lambs , WE GONNA STAND ON JESUS CHRIST ALONE SISTER .
You just watch this and see WHY , see the WHY she was fired . Exactly sister .

Amen. Evil for good and good for evil. It's in this thread here as well and some SEEM to LOVE it !

 

[amigo de christo]

People don't like the light nor the truth for it reveals the darkness in their souls!

Amen. Evil for good and good for evil. It's in this thread here as well and some SEEM to LOVE it !

Its a hog trough the lambs REFUSE to eat from my dear sister . For every WORD of the LORD is prescious in their sight .
The lambs eat only from the TRUTH of the HOLY words of our LORD . Lambs call not evil good or good evil .
THEY are in full agreement with THE GLORIOUS LORD on all things . LIFT THOSE HANDS and PRAISE the KING sister .
Times in this world will only get worse . As for the lambs WE GOT THE LORD no matter what cometh against us .
HE is with the lambs through it all . To HE we owe all . Let all that has breath both praise and thank the glorious LORD .
OH ITS a battle dear sister and sadly most are choosing the WRONG side . For even though hand joins in hand
and the wicked grow as does a green bray tree , ONLY the lambs WIN in the end .
FOR JESUS has the victory and our faith in HIM giveth us the victory . Now raise those hands sister . IT be LORD praising time .

 

[amigo de christo]

People don't like the light nor the truth for it reveals the darkness in their souls!

Amen. Evil for good and good for evil. It's in this thread here as well and some SEEM to LOVE it !

Men will do as men will do and the world will love its own .
But lambs gonna do as JESUS said to do and their hearts are upon HIM and they eat of the meat he provides .
MY WORDS are SPIRIT and they are LIFE . meat to the lambs .
But the worldly do as the wordly do and none do understand that the end of a lie is the second death .
The world does many exploits to silence the truth . But the lambs shall do exploits pointing only to Christ and unto Truth .
The wicked shall not understand , but the wise in Christ shall understand . TO THE TRENCHES SISTER .
This life is but a vapor but eternal life is FOREVER and EVER and has no end . ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST is ETERNAL LIFE
and unto all who do BELIEVE HE has given eternal life .
But unto the unbelievers , those who taught praticed and loved a lie and rejected the LOVE of the TRUTH
whereby they could have been saved , awaits THE WRATH AND JUDGMENT OF ALL MIGHTY GOD .
All we can do is point to CHRIST and all things HE did teach n say . ALL the lovely truth in scriptures by which if one does
feed and heed they shall grow wise indeed .

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Brother Amigo, for your solid standing and never wavering from truth.........

 

[amigo de christo]

Beliefs or faith? If we had religious beliefs the size of a mustard seed we could move mountains???

Beliefs are in the realm of religion. They come from the temporal part of us...what we think or believe or have an opinion about. Of course beliefs are inevitable....that we take on certain dogmatic stances we think are correct.

UNLESS...we learn to not put ANY confidence in the flesh. Our beliefs will always clash with the beliefs of others. If we raise up beliefs as anything but the flesh at work...we end up with thousands of denominations.

Yet there is only one Body.

Faith, on the other hand is towards God. God loves faith and rewards that faith with His grace. Miracles happen by faith. The chiefest gift of grace IMHO is to be translated into the higher walk...translated into the kingdom realm...to walk as Jesus walked. (Seek first the kingdom)

The mountain that is moved in that case is the outer man and any and all human understanding. The Bible often relates mountains and hills to our pride. The valleys we can relate to the disheartened, the downcast. So we are to take heart..and be lifted up from the valleys. We are to humble ourselves...bringing down the pride of our lofty claims and ideas...making the way straight before the Lord. :)

Beliefs or faith , you BELIEVE YOUR OWN teachings and yet say BELIEF etc .
Move over budda , new age teachings make zero sense . BELIEFS are in the realm of religoin . SAYETH EPI as he BELIEVES THIS .
does anyone else see the IRONY in this new age budda type stuff .
Rather odd JESUS Seemed to say BELIEVE A LOT . And while epi sure BELIEVES IN MANY THINGS
he seemth not to BELEIVE one MUST BELIEVE IN CHRIST . rather odd . something has went dead wrong with you epi .

 

[amigo de christo]

Brother Amigo, for your solid standing and never wavering from truth.........
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The more i read what epi sayeth the more i see a eastern buddism new age mindset of EGO all over it .
They holler against BELIEF in JESUS as though that is RELIGOIUS and yet BELIEVE as they beleive and cannot see its they WHO ARE RELIGIOUS and that we simply preach JESUS CHRIST .