Actually Jesus returns twice...

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1 Thessalonians is the second coming

Revelation 19 doesn’t mention Jesus coming to the earth, He is only shown up in heaven, it is a symbolic for judgement from the sword of Jesus mouth His word

Mathew, Mark and Luke are coming in judgements

Jesus said that when He returns it will be with His angels and He will separate people and it will be the final judgement day
Way off

He returns at the second coming of rev 19.
 

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I would think if Jesus left on a white horse...they would have written about it.

I did notice you added to the bible by suggesting that Jesus did...and hid behind....."not all... details of a matter are always found in one single place in God's Word".
You are going to find here that postribbers see the "like manner " of acts one, through special lenses.
 

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Actually Jesus returns twice...

Acts 1:
11“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.”

In verse 9 we see a description....9 After He had said this, they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight.

In 1 Thes 4 we read about the resurrection/rapture (caught up) event.
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For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

Jesus simply ascended into the clouds...nothing spectacular. At the resurrection rapture event Jesus returns in the clouds the same way He left.

When we get to Rev 19 we see a different description of the return of Jesus....
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Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war. 12 He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is The Word of God.

In Mark 16:19–20; Luke 24:50–53 there is no mention of a white horse. if Jesus ascended into heaven on a white horse surely Luke or Mark would have mentioned it.

There are obviously 2 returns as two distinctly different description are provided in the bible to read.

The pre-trib return...
In Luke 17 Jesus provides a description and relates it to the days of Noah and Lot
26 Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man: 27 People were eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
28 It was the same in the days of Lot: People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But on the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.

Jesus told us... "People were eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage buying and selling, planting and building." If you think about it if Jesus only returns once at the end of the great tribulation....considering what the world has just gone through I don't think people will be eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage buying and selling, planting and building. BUT...in the pre-trib return scenario it describes what it is like today...people ARE eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage buying and selling, planting and building.
Yep most definitely.
 

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It will be a pleasant surprise for the post-tribbers when they are taken in the pre-trib rapture.
They won't be.
The virgin parable proves it.
Only those looking for Jesus and are ready are taken.
Remember "while they were gone the rapture happened "
They are not ready, nor are they looking for Jesus.
In fact they mock those that are looking for Jesus.
Jesus said twice : "half are taken"
 

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They won't be.
The virgin parable proves it.
Only those looking for Jesus and are ready are taken.
Remember "while they were gone the rapture happened "
They are not ready, nor are they looking for Jesus.
In fact they mock those that are looking for Jesus.
Jesus said twice : "half are taken"
Who says the virgins were representing saved people?
 

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...and are waiting for the white horse rider (the AC).
Looking and hoping for the wrong thing, and mocking those that are Jesus centered.
The white horse rider of Rev 6 will deceive many...and...the rider has the wrong crown.
 

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It will be a pleasant surprise for the post-tribbers when they are taken in the pre-trib rapture.
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It will be an unpleasant surprise for pre-tribbers when they find themselves going through things that they thought they were going to be taken away from.
 
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...and are waiting for the white horse rider (the AC).
Looking and hoping for the wrong thing, and mocking those that are Jesus centered.
If you want to be Jesus centered then you should believe what He taught, which is the post-trib rapture.

Mark 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.