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I don't have nightmares anymore. I haven't had any for year's, and as you know I've been enduring some tough stuff. 8-9 year's been without all those creature comforts on the streets of Australia. By the way the next time someone talk's about some homeless street person. Tell them '"Streets? You mean outdoors, because everything is outside in nature" Anyway back to the topic at hand. Okay I can be sure now what and why I am lacking the mentioned nightmares going missing for year's. There been a few psychological (Or I should say physiological) surprises along the way of dismantling my dependencies on belief. Also that early morning sleep crust around my eyes rarely occur anymore, and it is minimal in comparison to my believing days. I know I know, believing is important you say. Well I disagree, especially now I've had some time to examine the effects of refusing to accept everything on belief.
 
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I don't have nightmares anymore. I haven't had any for year's, and as you know I've been enduring some tough stuff. 8-9 year's been without all those creature comforts on the streets of Australia. By the way the next time someone talk's about some homeless street person. Tell them '"Streets? You mean outdoors, because everything is outside in nature" Anyway back to the topic at hand. Okay I can be sure now what and why I am lacking the mentioned nightmares going missing for year's. There been a few psychological (Or I should say physiological) surprises along the way of dismantling my dependencies on belief. Also that early morning sleep crust around my eyes rarely occur anymore, and it is minimal in comparison to my believing days. I know I know, believing is important you say. Well I disagree, especially now I've had some time to examine the effects of refusing to accept everything on belief.
It could be you are living the nightmare , ever thought about that ?
 
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Thank you for your post.

Can you elucidate what you do believe in? The choices you make throughout the day are based on your beliefs, including those beliefs you might not know you have. Are you content with your life, based on the choices you have made so far?

Related: if you could live in an ideal society, what would be its most important characteristics?

Peace.
 
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Thank you for your post.

Can you elucidate what you do believe in? The choices you make throughout the day are based on your beliefs, including those beliefs you might not know you have. Are you content with your life, based on the choices you have made so far?

Related: if you could live in an ideal society, what would be its most important characteristics?

Peace.
@Bob

Whatever I tend to believe day by day are not ideas I tag as certainties. For me a belief is just an assumption before I know enough to be certain. I have many assumptions about the world and universe I live in, because that's how our human brain operates. Nobody just starts being certain of something until they've weeded out the assumptions first. So I'm fine with having whatever beliefs one day to another, but don't be thinking that those beliefs are my overall unchanging world view.
 

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I don't have nightmares anymore. I haven't had any for year's, and as you know I've been enduring some tough stuff. 8-9 year's been without all those creature comforts on the streets of Australia. By the way the next time someone talk's about some homeless street person. Tell them '"Streets? You mean outdoors, because everything is outside in nature" Anyway back to the topic at hand. Okay I can be sure now what and why I am lacking the mentioned nightmares going missing for year's. There been a few psychological (Or I should say physiological) surprises along the way of dismantling my dependencies on belief. Also that early morning sleep crust around my eyes rarely occur anymore, and it is minimal in comparison to my believing days. I know I know, believing is important you say. Well I disagree, especially now I've had some time to examine the effects of refusing to accept everything on belief.
"Belief" is just a matter of accepting that there is more to life and this world than meets the eye. In other words, in order to not believe in anything, one would have to be in denial, or know everything there is to know.

Which is it for you?

There are no other options.
 
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"Belief" is just a matter of accepting that there is more to life and this world than meets the eye. In other words, in order to not believe in anything, one would have to be in denial, or know everything there is to know.

Which is it for you?

There are no other options.
Why are there no other options? Because you're holding on to a belief you want to be real. Does anyone need to believe something when they know it to be real?
 

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Why are there no other options? Because you're holding on to a belief you want to be real. Does anyone need to believe something when they know it to be real?
Because if you have another option you are thinking of, you either "believe" it, or "know" it to be true. Again, only two options.

But what are you really trying to say here, that you once believed that life was something more than meets the eye, but it failed you somehow?
 

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Because if you have another option you are thinking of, you either "believe" it, or "know" it to be true. Again, only two options.

But what are you really trying to say here, that you once believed that life was something more than meets the eye, but it failed you somehow?
Life didn't do anything to me. We did. It is us that's the problem, not life or nature. Life isn't unfair, it's human beings who are. Life doesn't judge, life doesn't care about race or gender, life doesn't care about who's rich or poor. But humans do, and that's the problem.
 
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The flawed human nature gets in the way of living life as was originally designed in perfection. And these human flaws can be a real drag in our lives, coming from ourselves and others around us. There is no one innocent here. And I do think we believe initially until we can have faith in others and in the things in life. Again, I believe we were once designed as perfect beings despite of all of our shortcomings today. And to me we have a real life line to the super intelligent presence in this Universe, to have faith and lead our lives in that framework. To begin to rid of ourselves of the rubbish in our lives and live as intended.
 

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Thank you all for the comments.

”Belief” can be more than just having faith in a loving God who created the universe.

There are many people who believe that our material & energy universe is all there is, and that the universe came into existence somehow (they don’t really care). They also believe in a Godless, random evolution, from which it follows (for them) that humans are just another social mammal, from which it follows that animals have the same “rights” as us. For these people, there cannot be an absolute morality—it is up to each person—and as a result they tend to live for selfish desires and will fulfill them if possible without regard to the consequences to them or others.

How do we as Christians reach these people, and convince them a better life awaits them if they will turn their hearts to God? Unless they are completely unsatisfied with the consequences of their current choices (based on their beliefs), the seeds of the Gospel will fall on barren, rocky ground.

Blessings.
 

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Life didn't do anything to me. We did. It is us that's the problem, not life or nature. Life isn't unfair, it's human beings who are. Life doesn't judge, life doesn't care about race or gender, life doesn't care about who's rich or poor. But humans do, and that's the problem.
What did "we" do to you?
 

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What did "we" do to you?
"We" did it to ourselves. Nature isn't preventing us from feeding, clothing and housing everyone. We human beings have caused all of those problems. Ever seen a tree prevent us from having oxygen? Or a fruit tree stop us eating from it? Our natural world and universe gives freely, and it was us that didn't want that.
 

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"We" did it to ourselves. Nature isn't preventing us from feeding, clothing and housing everyone. We human beings have caused all of those problems. Ever seen a tree prevent us from having oxygen? Or a fruit tree stop us eating from it? Our natural world and universe gives freely, and it was us that didn't want that.
Guilty as charged.

However, that all speaks of this physical world...like symptoms speak of illness. There is no cure in that approach. Yes, we've run short of band aids, but they were never going to heal us. First aid is good, and it does help, but that is not the real need.
 

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Guilty as charged.

However, that all speaks of this physical world...like symptoms speak of illness. There is no cure in that approach. Yes, we've run short of band aids, but they were never going to heal us. First aid is good, and it does help, but that is not the real need.
Why are there so many believer's of God in this world but little is shared freely?
 

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Why are there so many believer's of God in this world but little is shared freely?
How do you mean? Do you mean, food, possessions, love, truth, what exactly? But, do remember, according to my illness analogy, only certain of those offer a cure. Only some of those would get to the root of what is actually the problem.

You see...and to answer your question...we don't share--because we too are needy. Not in the way that you perhaps mean, but in a way that is ultimately more important and is the real problem...which is not so much physical as it is in our soul.
 
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