Aliens

[Brakelite]

My saying that it seems ridiculous to assume that there is no other intelligent life in such a vast universe, does not mean I will welcome them.

I happen to like the theory of CS Lewis. He said extraterrestrials cannot visit us, because earth has been quarantined due to sin. If they exist, the vast distances between them and us ensures that they will never be polluted by our sin.

Agree. To a point. I believe the earth is the limit to Satan's influence. Here is where Christ gave His life. I believe Lewis is correct. Not because of distance, but because of God's set limits. God is still in charge after all. And angels, including Satan and his fallen mob, can travel faster than what the laws of nature on earth dictate, such as physics. Quarantine? Good term, yes. We grossly underestimate God's loathing and hatred for sin, and His desire to limit its influence. When I meet a real "alien", because of sin and is reputation throughout Rnt universe, he will have more to fear from me than the other way around.

How would you know???

We can know that sin is limited to here by superimposing God's redemption plan over the universe. He is willing to go to great lengths to protect us from sin and remove it from within each individual by giving His only begotten Son. You think He allowed Satan to have free reign over other civilisations elsewhere and pollute and destroy them also? Hasn't Satan done enough damage here without thinking he's profaned "aliens " as well? That's why we know aliens aren't here. But we are certainly being primed to think they are, with more coming. And they will come with promises of healing and peace and safety. Sound familiar? Impersonation. With great power and wonders and signs so that if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived.
Look up the term "externalisation of the hierarchy" from Alice A Bailley.

 

[David in NJ]

My saying that it seems ridiculous to assume that there is no other intelligent life in such a vast universe, does not mean I will welcome them.

I happen to like the theory of CS Lewis. He said extraterrestrials cannot visit us, because earth has been quarantined due to sin. If they exist, the vast distances between them and us ensures that they will never be polluted by our sin.

Did you and @Brakelite forget that Sin came into the world from a Spiritual being???

Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

 

[Jack]

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,

 

[CrowCross]

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,

When the "aliens" come...or should I say the fallen angels show themselves to the public ....They will tell those on planet earth that it is them who created life on the planet..it is them who via evolution tweaked their creation and created man.
It is them who "invented" religion...there is no Savior Jesus instead they are the saviors....and so on.

As for the aliens being what we call demons...demons are the spirits of the departed nephilim. Not fallen angels.

These "aliens" don't come from a distant galaxy or star system but rather enter into our 3 dimensions + time from a higher realm. IMO.

 

[CrowCross]

Agree. To a point. I believe the earth is the limit to Satan's influence.

Thee is a theory that Satan once inhabited the planet Rahab...between Mars and Jupiter. This planet was shattered and became the asteroid belt.

 

[Jack]

Thee is a theory that Satan once inhabited the planet Rahab...between Mars and Jupiter. This planet was shattered and became the asteroid belt.

Whose 'theory' would that be?

 

[CrowCross]

Whose 'theory' would that be?

It comes from Job 26:12....By his power he stilled the sea; by his understanding he shattered Rahab.

Psalms 89:10 You crushed Rahab like a carcass; you scattered your enemies with your mighty arm.

Isaiah 51:9 Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in days of old, the generations of long ago. Was it not you who cut Rahab in pieces, who pierced the dragon?

This is pretty much a commercial, but it very quickly presents the theory.

This 8 min video goes into more detail.

 

[doctrox]

As for the aliens being what we call demons...demons are the spirits of the departed nephilim. Not fallen angels.

Correct. The giants were the result of fallen angels mating with earthly women. Whereas the stereotypical "demons" (properly, devils) of today are the disembodied spirits of those drowned giants.

 

[Jack]

Demons (properly, devils) are the disembodied spirits of the drowned giants.

Scripture please

 

[doctrox]

Scripture please

845 biblical references to giants

 

[Jack]

845 biblical references to giants

That's not what I asked for.

"Demons (properly, devils) are the disembodied spirits of the drowned giants."

 

[doctrox]

That's not what I asked for.

"Demons (properly, devils) are the disembodied spirits of the drowned giants."

Calm down, Jack. Here are plenty of posts that cover that aspect (be careful what you ask for...).

 

[Anchorite]

Calm down, Jack. Here are plenty of posts that cover that aspect (be careful what you ask for...).

Flat earther, he asked for scriptures that state demons are disembodied spirits of drowned giants.

Instead, you linked to a thread of Christadelphian posts.

 

[RLT63]

Scripture please

Scripture doesn’t specify if demons are fallen angels or disembodied spirits of the Nephilim

 

[Jack]

Calm down, Jack. Here are plenty of posts that cover that aspect (be careful what you ask for...).

I'm quite calm. Take your own advice.

 

[Jack]

Scripture doesn’t specify if demons are fallen angels or disembodied spirits of the Nephilim

I think you're right.

 

[Jack]

Calm down, Jack. Here are plenty of posts that cover that aspect (be careful what you ask for...).

I need to calm down for asking for Bible? lol

 

[CrowCross]

I think you're right.

The origination of demons is found in the book of Enoch. 1 Enoch chapter 15.

Some people say the fallen angels become demons....where does the bible mention that?

 

[RLT63]

The origination of demons is found in the book of Enoch. 1 Enoch chapter 15.

Some people say the fallen angels become demons....where does the bible mention that?

Enoch says angels known as the Watchers had relations with women ( as does Genesis 6) and their children were giants, Genesis calls them Nephilim

 

[David in NJ]

Flat earther, he asked for scriptures that state demons are disembodied spirits of drowned giants.

Instead, you linked to a thread of Christadelphian posts.

Scripture doesn’t specify if demons are fallen angels or disembodied spirits of the Nephilim

Well, we have to play detective here to properly assess.

Let's begin with what the Bible does tell us = Genesis 6:1-4

Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.

So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.

These angels that rebelled, where were they placed when God sent the Flood? = Jude 1:5-6

But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;

What does that leave us gentlemen?

That leaves us with the evil spirits of the Nephilim that drowned.

The Nephilim are neither angel nor human but a hybrid species.

Being a evil hybrid they could not be allowed in paradise where the saints went before the Cross.

Neither were they sent to the grave where the souls of the unsaved currently are.

They roam the earth until the Second Coming.