All of Scripture DOES NOT INCLUDE EVERYTHING that was to come.

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I definitely don't believe that the bibles we have today contain ALL the words of God which He has communicated to us thus far. Far from it. A fraction yes.

It's like someone gathered 66, 73, 80 buckets of water from the ocean and say this is ALL the ocean, or enough ocean you need to understand the whole ocean.

So it's not if God has power to achieve anything He desires. Of course He does.

Has God given us ALL we need to know and put ALL that information the bibles. NO!
You don't believe that GOD is/was powerful enough to ensure the Bible we have today is all that we need to know how to be saved ?
 
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Caths/Pros agree on the NT books.
The NT books teach how believers today are saved.
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I'll reword the question for you :)
Do you claim that GOD was/is not powerful enough to ensure the Bible today is sufficient to teach how a person today is saved ?
God is definitely powerful enough to ensure the bible today is sufficient to teach how a person today is saved.

At the end of the day it is God's responsibility to choose individuals and draw them to Himself through Christ, the Way, by means of Their Spirit.

Is the bibles the only tool He uses. Certainly not. But it is one of Their tools in Their toolbox.
 

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You know that there are many bibles out the ATM. Many with 73 books. Many added to this one and ended up with 80 eg. KJV. Then some which removed 16 books to form 66 book bibles. All are referred to as Christian bibles, whether words or whole books were added or removed.

Then there is ALL SCRIPTURE. No one knows what they are. They were obviously individual books, some were lost, some destroyed, others hidden and some found their way into the bibles we have today.

There is One Who knows every word and therefore ALL SCRIPTURE and that is the Person Who communicated these words of God to humans. Holy Spirit Who lives in us Who God chose to redeem. So we can get Divine truth and revelation straight from Him and receive more of ALL SCRIPTURE the just isn't in the bibles.

This is awesome! I love Him and His words of life.
Who do you love? You forsook God of the Bible, remember?
 
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God is definitely powerful enough to ensure the bible today is sufficient to teach how a person today is saved.

At the end of the day it is God's responsibility to choose individuals and draw them to Himself through Christ, the Way, by means of Their Spirit.

God is definitely powerful enough to ensure the bible today is sufficient to teach how a person today is saved.


. But it is one of Their tools in Their toolbox.
""God is definitely powerful enough to ensure the bible today is sufficient to teach how a person today is saved.""
Correct.
""But it is one of Their tools in Their toolbox""
Christ is the only way - John 14:6 <<< What other "tool" teaches that ?
""God's responsibility to choose individuals and draw them to Himself through Christ""
GOD blindly chooses who is not saved ?
 
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""God is definitely powerful enough to ensure the bible today is sufficient to teach how a person today is saved.""
Correct.
""But it is one of Their tools in Their toolbox""
Christ is the only way - John 14:6 <<< What other "tool" teaches that ?
""God's responsibility to choose individuals and draw them to Himself through Christ""
GOD blindly chooses who is not saved ?
Yes, no one goes to the Father except through Christ.

And God chooses which children He wants to serve as kings and priests in His Son's 1000 year kingdom. The rest He hasn't chosen to fulfil these roles.
 

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I love the Lord my God more and more with my heart, soul, mind and strength. And my neighbour. Who do you love?
Those who love God don't forsake the Bible as you have!
You must be getting me confused with someone else. God has not forsaken this person and he hasn't forsaken God.
No, I have you pegged. You forsook God of the Bible. You said so!
 
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Yes, no one goes to the Father except through Christ.

And God chooses which children He wants to serve as kings and priests in His Son's 1000 year kingdom. The rest He hasn't chosen to fulfil these roles.
""And God chooses which children He wants to serve as kings and priests in His Son's 1000 year kingdom"" << AGREED
Do you believe that GOD blindly chooses who is SAVED ?
 

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""And God chooses which children He wants to serve as kings and priests in His Son's 1000 year kingdom"" << AGREED
Do you believe that GOD blindly chooses who is SAVED ?
O2q stated that we are all going to Hell FOREVER!
 

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Those who love God don't forsake the Bible as you have!

No, I have you pegged. You forsook God of the Bible. You said so!
Someone told me a story where his brother forsook God, true fellowship and sound doctrine. He went on to say that his brother was invited by some of his friends to share his testimony and sing a song he wrote at another denomination.

Of course he hadn't, as he fellowshiped with both denominations, coming to one then going to another. Both were the church. No one was forsaken. Certainly not God.

So likewise, I receive God's word in the bible and the word of God outside it. No forsaking God or His word here.
 

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""And God chooses which children He wants to serve as kings and priests in His Son's 1000 year kingdom"" << AGREED
Do you believe that GOD blindly chooses who is SAVED ?
The Divine Script Writer designs each character to fulfil their designed purpose. He chooses who, how, what, when and why He designs and creates each individual.

Blindly, never. For ALL will be saved remember. 2 Peter 3:9 It's a matter of WHEN and for what purpose.
 

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Someone told me a story where his brother forsook God, true fellowship and sound doctrine. He went on to say that his brother was invited by some of his friends to share his testimony and sing a song he wrote at another denomination.

Of course he hadn't, as he fellowshiped with both denominations, coming to one then going to another. Both were the church. No one was forsaken. Certainly not God.

So likewise, I receive God's word in the bible and the word of God outside it. No forsaking God or His word here.
You said you will be in Hell FOREVER! Why would anyone believe you?
 

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You said you will be in Hell FOREVER! Why would anyone believe you?
For ALL have died in Adam. There are none who seek God. For ALL have sinned. The wages of sin is death.

Therefore according to Paul, ALL deserve to go into the lake of fire.

I am quoting straight from the bible. Are you going to contradict the bible on this forum?
 

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The Divine Script Writer designs each character to fulfil their designed purpose. He chooses who, how, what, when and why He designs and creates each individual.

Blindly, never. For ALL will be saved remember. 2 Peter 3:9 It's a matter of WHEN and for what purpose.
""Blindly, never, """<<< confirmed by :-1 Tim 2:4, 2 Pet 3:9
Predestination of saved believers to certain roles ? YES
 
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For ALL have died in Adam. There are none who seek God. For ALL have sinned. The wages of sin is death.

Therefore according to Paul, ALL deserve to go into the lake of fire.

I am quoting straight from the bible. Are you going to contradict the bible on this forum?
You're quoting YOU. So quote the part where you said you're going to Hell FOREVER!