All the ELECT please stand up

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Sometimes Christianityboard is like the little strainer thing in the kitchen sink.
You wash the dishes and all the debris and leftover garbage gets caught by the strainer.
The strainer does not cause the left over debris, it just stops it, catches the garbage to be disposed of.
Those who believe the doctrines of grace are functioning as the strainer here.
And we put up with a lot of garbage on here.
 
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Lol!!! Nope, that's not remotely biblical or true. It's utterly false and isn't "Glory to God" at all, its glory to yourself.

LOL...

God electing a man Without a man AGREEING is FORCE ...without the man having exercised his FREEWILL to elect God or NOT.

God CALLS. Men respond to the CALL or NOT.
A man who RESPONDS to the CALL....AND makes a Commitment to God IS the man ELECTING GOD, and thereafter BECOMES "ONE" of Gods ELECT.

Gods ELECT are out FROM;
Adam.
Particular Hebrews.
Moses.
Aaron.
Noah.
Abram/Abraham.
Jacob/Israel.
The Tribes of Israel.
Job.
Mary.
Jesus.
Christ.
Elizabeth.
John the Baptist.
Disciples IN Christ Jesus.
Two Witnesses,
144,000 Virgin Jews of every Tribe of Israel,
Men IN Christ's Church.
A Remant to repopulate the World, (1,000 yr)
AND
Others, not listed here.

"IF" any person MAKES a SURE ELECTION "OF" and SURE Commitment "TO" thee Lord God Almighty"...
"THEN" that person BECOMES MADE "the ELECT" "OF" thee Lord God Almighty.

Obviously you don't get the ORDER and WAY God Himself has LAID out for a man.

God creates AND God makes.

The Creation of individual men, was NOT at the individual mans Request.

The "MAKING" of a man Acceptable to God...
REQUIRES the man to ELECT and SUBMIT to God...."THEN" God ELECTS that man...and "THAT" man "THEN" Becomes "MADE" Gods Elect.

Keep studying.

Glory to God,
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i get tired of this idea that God selects individuals for salvation. These are called “the elect”.
There is not a person on here that can PROVE they are one of the elect. You can’t demonstrate anything physically. You can’t point to anything in the Bible that proves that you personally have been selected. You can only point to generic passages talking about election. And in those passages there is NOTHING that points directly to you.
So, I want ALL those who think God chose you for election to please stand up and PROVE IT!!!
It is like you are saying those who are believers/followers of our blessed Lord Christ Jesus and therefore have received salvation-- that they cannot know they are saved? that is untrue.
 

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However, the GROWING in FAITH of the man...has the "NEXT" STEP of Commitment...that MAKES the man Become MADE Elected By God. :)




Amen!

Yes. These things Continue as you are listening to the Calling, Receiving More Faith, electing to Commit, and Maintaining your Commitment...TO thee Lord God...AND the "Precepts" the Lord God teaches of Behaviors Toward and Between Other men.



Yes... a mans calling BY God
And
A mans election OF God



Yes. The IF ~ THEN scenario...

"IF" a man does answer the calling, By the mans election and "WHEN" God has responded with His election....
"THEN" the man is slated for entrance INTO Christ's everylasting kingdom.

Glory to God,
Taken
More false teaching above.
 

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Men are elected before the world was.eph1:3-11

Men are KNOWN of God by God...
BEFORE the WORLD was, BEFORE the EARTH was revealed, BEFORE man was CREATED and MADE.

God FOREKNEW, EVERY Created man, and EVERY Made man...BEFORE it Came to Pass that ANY Created man was Created, and ANY Created man WAS "MADE'.

Absolutely God foreknew WHICH men WOULD be Created, WHICH men WOULD become MADE, and WHICH men WOULD REJECT HIM, and DIE without having BEEN "MADE" Whole.

HOWEVER....MEN "DID NOT KNOW".
Men did NOT know, they would be created.
Men did NOT know, what they would ELECT.
Men did NOT know, God created them, and at the Election of the Man....God WOULD MAKE the man "CHANGED".

Each of those sinners elected confess Christ openly "when" the Spirit quickened them at new birth.

No, that is not when.

Confession is made BEFORE a man is quickened with the HS and Seed of God, birthing the man a New spirit.

Hearing, Reading, Learning, Following is the Point a man BEGINS receiving measures of Faith from God, preparing the man FOR Commitment to Elect God.

The Confession of man, is the POINT a man IS notifying God of the mans ELECTION of God.

THEN thereAFTER...God responds with ELECTING the man...
forgiving, crucifying the mans body, washing the mans body, anointing the mans body (sanctifying), MAKING the man Justified to be "set side unto God Only". (The Kings SEAL).
Restoring the mans soul,
Quickening the mans spirit,
Circumcising the mans heart,
Gods Spirit indwelling with the man.
The man THEN in FULL- faithfulness TO and OF God.
The man TO God...OF Gods Power to Keep the man To and Of God.

Glory to God,
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Keep on preaching the truth, the Soli Deo Gloria! @Anthony D'Arienzo @tzcho2 @SovereignGrace!!! Expose their false god false gospel and idol of self!

And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. 4 But God,being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.[Ephesians 2]

They read this, but it just goes ‘wooooosh!’ by their heads.
 

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And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. 4 But God,being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.[Ephesians 2]

They read this, but it just goes ‘wooooosh!’ by their heads.
They replace "But God" with "But Myself."
 

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Men are KNOWN of God by God...
BEFORE the WORLD was, BEFORE the EARTH was revealed, BEFORE man was CREATED and MADE.

God FOREKNEW, EVERY Created man, and EVERY Made man...BEFORE it Came to Pass that ANY Created man was Created, and ANY Created man WAS "MADE'.

Absolutely God foreknew WHICH men WOULD be Created, WHICH men WOULD become MADE, and WHICH men WOULD REJECT HIM, and DIE without having BEEN "MADE" Whole.

HOWEVER....MEN "DID NOT KNOW".
Men did NOT know, they would be created.
Men did NOT know, what they would ELECT.
Men did NOT know, God created them, and at the Election of the Man....God WOULD MAKE the man "CHANGED".



No, that is not when.

Confession is made BEFORE a man is quickened with the HS and Seed of God, birthing the man a New spirit.

Hearing, Reading, Learning, Following is the Point a man BEGINS receiving measures of Faith from God, preparing the man FOR Commitment to Elect God.

The Confession of man, is the POINT a man IS notifying God of the mans ELECTION of God.

THEN thereAFTER...God responds with ELECTING the man...
forgiving, crucifying the mans body, washing the mans body, anointing the mans body (sanctifying), MAKING the man Justified to be "set side unto God Only". (The Kings SEAL).
Restoring the mans soul,
Quickening the mans spirit,
Circumcising the mans heart,
Gods Spirit indwelling with the man.
The man THEN in FULL- faithfulness TO and OF God.
The man TO God...OF Gods Power to Keep the man To and Of God.

Glory to God,
Taken
Ladies and gentlemen , the above is how to eisegete the Bible. He’s poured his meology all throughout it.
 
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More false teaching above.

The NEATO thing about you expressing your opinion...is that; your opinion is irrelevant.

God has AN ORDER and WAY for every part of a man to become "MADE" in Gods LIKENESS,
Body, mind, heart, soul, spirit...Wholly Whole, and Acceptable to God.

IF you do not KNOW what IS Gods Likeness, OR KNOW HOW TO achieve becoming IN Gods LIKENESS according to Gods WAY...

Then you would NOT recognize the Knowledge and Scoff at being told the Knowledge...and as mentioned, that is irrelevant and has ZERO effect on me.

Glory to God,
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Ladies and gentlemen , the above is how to eisegete the Bible. He’s poured his meology all throughout it.

Make Excuses or Make Progress.

When you Accuse Broadly, it's an Excuse.

Try QUOTING a paticular thing, Claim your disagreement, and Scripturally PROVE your Claim.... That's Progress!

You could start with my Opening statement, that....is Verified in Scirpture..
Rom 8:29, Eph 1:45, Jer 1:15, Rev 13:8

(That you claim is how to eisegete the Bible and pour enology ALL throughout it)

Prove it.

Glory to God,
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Then @Taken says if God saves them without permission it’s force. Fallen man doesn’t need forced into salvation, they need to be infused with spiritual life.

So?

My point was not IF A MAN NEEDS Salvation.

My point was Salvation is NOT Forced on a Man.

Salvation is an OFFERING, a man Has to Decide to accept the Offering ... or Not.

And what YOU Think they NEED...is Irrelevant.

It is the Individual mans free WILL, to decide What He wants and needs...

Glory to God,
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It is statements like the one above that makes Christianity into a joke. Nobody feels they have to prove anything. They can just state they are saved, chosen by God and don’t have to prove it. Just take my word for it. I am “in Christ”. I am one of the elect. Why? Because I said so and you can’t question me.
Nothing but a joke.
So....sadly it seems you are saying that you don't know you are saved? you don't know that you are redeemed? you don't know that when you die you will go to heaven and meet the Lord face to face?
 

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Are you saying that individuals actually have to do something in order to be one of the “elect”?
Because you actually made a factual statement. The “elect” are all those who are “in Christ”.
So, if you are “in Christ”. What did you do to get there?
I'm not a calvinist and don't know what your problem is with the term elect. Do you believe in a works based salvation? I believe in salvation by grace, through faith alone in Jesus.
I believe what the scripture says.
....by grace we are saved through faith. Ephesians 2:8 "8 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.…"