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That website is not credible.

No information on who owns. No information on who runs it. No information on their material sources.

It's one of hundreds of conspiracy websites that do not agree with each other.

There are many other websites if that one doesn't strike you as credible.

I think times are about to get very bad for Americans. The writing is on the wall. I saw what happened when the factories closed in our city - it became a wasteland of drugs; this has been repeated all across America. Manufacturing has largely been shipped overseas, at the same time that immigration has been importing a lot of people. I went to our local government office and I was the only American in there. It was all immigrants applying for welfare. Trump has continued that - he's not holding to campaign promises; for all his bluster about MAGA he's letting in more and more, and they'll all vote for socialism, and borders are being erased. We went to the airport and every single employee was a foreigner. I had business to handle yesterday and every single person who answered the phone was a foreigner. I couldn't understand them. The following is how I feel, but I"m usually the canary in the coal mine:

"People fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world. For the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

Luke 21:26 ESV

I looked up "New World Order and Revelations" and a number of websites about prophecy came up. One said this;

Question: "Does the Bible prophesy a one-world government and a one-world currency in the end times?"

Answer: The Bible does not use the phrase “one-world government” or “one-world currency” in referring to the end times. It does, however, provide ample evidence to enable us to draw the conclusion that both will exist under the rule of the Antichrist in the last days.

In his apocalyptic vision in the Book of Revelation, the Apostle John sees the “beast,” also called the Antichrist, rising out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns (Revelation 13:1). Combining this vision with Daniel’s similar one (Daniel 7:16-24), we can conclude that some sort of world system will be inaugurated by the beast, the most powerful “horn,” who will defeat the other nine and will begin to wage war against Christians. The ten-nation confederacy is also seen in Daniel’s image of the statue in Daniel 2:41-42, where he pictures the final world government consisting of ten entities represented by the ten toes of the statue. Whoever the ten are and however they come to power, Scripture is clear that the beast will either destroy them or reduce their power to nothing more than figureheads. In the end, they will do his bidding.

John goes on to describe the ruler of this vast empire as having power and great authority, given to him by Satan himself (Revelation 13:2), being followed by and receiving worship from “all the world” (13:3-4), and having authority over “every tribe, people, language and nation” (13:7). From this description, it is logical to assume that this person is the leader of a one-world government which is recognized as sovereign over all other governments. It’s hard to imagine how such diverse systems of government as are in power today would willingly subjugate themselves to a single ruler, and there are many theories on the subject. A logical conclusion is that the disasters and plagues described in Revelation as the seal and trumpet judgments (chapters 6-11) will be so devastating and create such a monumental global crisis that people will embrace anything and anyone who promises to give them relief.

Once entrenched in power, the beast (Antichrist) and the power behind him (Satan) will move to establish absolute control over all peoples of the earth to accomplish their true end, the worship Satan has been seeking ever since being thrown out of heaven (Isaiah 14:12-14). One way they will accomplish this is by controlling all commerce, and this is where the idea of a one-world currency comes in. Revelation 13:16-17describes some sort of satanic mark which will be required in order to buy and sell. This means anyone who refuses the mark will be unable to buy food, clothing or other necessities of life. No doubt the vast majority of people in the world will succumb to the mark simply to survive. Again, verse 16 makes it clear that this will be a universal system of control where everyone, rich and poor, great and small, will bear the mark on their hand or forehead. There is a great deal of speculation as to how exactly this mark will be affixed, but the technologies that are available right now could accomplish it very easily.

Those who are left behind after the Rapture of the Church will be faced with an excruciating choice—accept the mark of the beast in order to survive or face starvation and horrific persecution by the Antichrist and his followers. But those who come to Christ during this time, those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life (Revelation 13:8), will choose to endure, even to martyrdom.
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I was reading another site and the bible teacher said this:

One World Government
For as long as I’ve been a believer, I’ve heard talk of the coming One World Government, but recently this has become a lot more than just talk. There’s an obvious effort underway to eliminate both national borders and to create a world governmental system that would have authority over all nations.

As just one example, a little while ago our family enrolled in something called the Trusted Traveler Program. It consists of a special pass issued to qualifying applicants from Canada, the USA, and Mexico that allows us to pass through any of the border check points between the 3 countries with out showing a passport or going through customs. With this pass we can cross from Mexico, where we serve as missionaries, into the US in about 10-15 minutes. Previously it took about an hour on regular days and more on weekends and holidays. Airline passengers from Canada or Mexico can go to special kiosks in designated US airports and receive the same expedited service. Homeland Security expects about 84 million Mexican citizens to enroll in this program.

I see this as a great convenience since we enter the US about once a week at the world’s busiest border crossing. But as I was looking at my pass the other day I noticed on the cover a representation of North America with no national borders and I realized this is only one step toward the goal of merging these three countries into a North American Union.
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The signs are all pointing to America being part of the North America union. Where we live it's mostly all Hispanics. We traveled to another state and it's the same thing. We went to my brother-in-laws and I got to talking to a man there who told me he just lost his job to a Mexican. We are marching toward the erasure of boundaries between Mexico and Canada. That's what NAFTA did. Now something else happened after NAFTA: the drug epidemic exploded. The manufacturing trucks were loaded with illegal drugs and only 3% were searched. Bill Clinton knew it and swore the DEA to silence. I think it was intentional to wipe out a lot of Americans, and replace them with migrants, just as stated in the goals of the illuminati.

I knew about where the drug epidemic originated because I'm a chronic pain patient and I couldn't understand why prescribing has gone way down but the drug epidemic continued to rise. One of my relatives was a death scene investigator for the ME's office and I asked her if the deaths were from illegal or legal drugs, and she said "illegal." But I saw that reporters were asking around the pain groups for anyone who got addicted to drugs after a doctor wrote a prescription for pain medication. It struck me as odd that reporters only wanted to talk to people who would claim they became addicted this way. Then I read that the news is all owned by the same group. They had an agenda: they wanted to spread the news that doctors and patients were the cause of the epidemic. You wouldn't believe what Americans have to go through to obtain pain medication: they have to be randomly drug tested, sign 'pain-contracts', and be subjected to questioning. One of the worst things I saw was an 80-some year old woman clinging to a walker with a drug-test swab jammed in her mouth.

Now while Americans are being scrutinized, forced to surrender their urine, questioned, controlled, the border remains WIDE OPEN where illegal drugs are FLOODING IN. It's insane. Americans are being systematically broken down to feel guilty; to feel like they're suspicious. I've talked to a number of other patients, and some were outright denied pain relief. Some of the worst stories were the Vets who were denied. Several committed suicide in the parking lot of the VA.

What kind of nation have we become? This is not America anymore.
 
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EVERY nation has blood on its hands--some more than others. The U.S. has less than nearly all. Look at all the tens of millions who were killed by their own Marxist governments. Mao--70,000,000; Stalin---20,000,000 (the majority of whom were Christians); Pol Pot of Cambodia, N. Korea; Cuba and now Venezuela under Maduro.

It's more of a rude awakening to me because I was brainwashed to believe that we were the good guys. Pledge Allegiance to the flag and all that. Then when I really began to look at the truth, I saw that we're not the good guys. I recall reading about all the Vietnamese women who were raped by American soldiers. I read of one particularly heinous thing American soldiers did to the women. The blinders came off - bit by bit. I read what America did to Guatemala - a big-wig in the Bush administration wanted to make $$$ and bought land in Guatemala and put all the local Guatemalan farmers out of business. That's why many there are moving to America. It's terrible what has been done. I don't know how those people live with themselves. Correction; I do know: the have a 'seared' conscience.
 

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Not to forget the genocides in Africa and the Balkans, which could have easily been stopped, but no one in the so-called United Nations had any will to do so. To some degree, the Native populations of America were also subjected to genocide. And now we have Radical Islamists all over the world ready, willing, and able to kill innocents throughout the Western world, while the stupid politicians can't seem to see this as a serious issue.

Islam is allegedly a creation of the Catholic church. Braklite showed me a video by Professor Walter Veith who showed that the Pope's robes and symbols actually bear the moon and star symbol that Islam uses.

Why the Catholic church would create Islam is beyond what I've looked into yet, but everything is all coming together.

I watched a documentary where a city in Michigan became a wasteland of drugs after manufacturing left. A Muslim went in and created jobs in the area and built a huge Muslim center right in the heart of Michigan.

I think all of these disparate happenings are going to open up to our understanding sooner or later. I think our politicians know full well what is going on.
 

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I like people questioning this because it causes me to research into it. I read this:

It has been several years since the term “New World Order was widely used. It almost seems as if it faded from the world scene after George Bush (father) popularized the term in the 1990’s. His use of the term didn’t set too well with conservative voters. After a glorious victory over Iraq, he became a one-term president. Politicians learned not to use the cliché around voters. But across the pond, in stodgy old Europe, the New World Order is as popular as ever.

Just six weeks after 9/11, Belgium’s Prime Minister, Guy Verhofstadt, while serving as President-in-Office of the European Council, gave a speech in Warsaw, Poland, at the opening ceremony of the College of Europe, on the very subject of the emerging New World Order. He spoke to students at the beginning of their academic year. He noted the need for Europe to become a model for an emerging New World Order. He mentioned that the United Nations was organized to establish the “New World Order” and that the United States, under former president, George Bush, had tried and failed.

George Bush senior who, in 1991, two years after the fall of the Berlin Wall and shortly after the victory against Saddam Hussein, issued a call the a New World Order…A New World Order built or protected by the United States alone turned out to be an illusion. Verhofstadt went on to say, “And yet, we now need a New World Order more than ever before. A world order in which American leadership will of course remain a key element, if only because it will remain the only country with a global military force until such time as Europe develops a defense capability of its own. But the other continents, and especially Europe, must make a major contribution to building this New World Order. How can we find a stronger and more effective alternative to a system based on the United Nations with its 189 formally sovereign states? We need to find a new path, a middle way. We could order the world on the basis of existing regional cooperation organizations: The European Union, ASEAN, Mercosur, NAFTA, the African Union, the Arab League and SAARC in southern Asia. In this context, we should also include countries like China, Russia, and Japan, and the whole of Oceania. We need to take a first step down the path towards a global form of federalism, a structure where the reality of an increasingly interactive world is finally made a political reality too. In fact, a structure of this kind was already planned when the United Nations was created in 1945, but was never implemented after the Cold War.

“We need a global political vision, a political counterweight capable of reining in uncontrolled forces, be they market forces or ideological forces. The European Union is the model, which shows this is possible. The European Union has become a model for regional cooperation agreements worldwide; a source of inspiration for the structures of a new world yet to be created. What I have tried to do today is to prove that the European Union is the most generous political project on our continent, a project that can be held up as an example for a New World Order that will truly begin to close the gap between rich and poor.. Now, as we stand on the threshold of the 21st century, I find it hard to imagine a greater political ambition.”

IT’S JUST A MATTER OF TIME!
A “coming one-world political, economic and religious system” has been predicted by most Bible prophecy teachers for as long as anyone can remember. Old Testament prophets referred to the condition of the world at the time of the end. Jesus had more to say about the status of the world at the time of His return than any of the writers of the New Testament. He talked about the signs of His coming in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 17 and 21.

The Apostle Paul spoke about the last days, Peter, Jude and John, climaxing about the coming New World Order.

Past president George Bush, along with Mikhail Gorbachev, popularized the terms, “New World Order,” “New International Order,” and “new partnership of nations.” In George Bush’s address to a joint session of Congress of September 11, 1990, his entire theme and focus was “The New World Order.” In speaking of the Persian Gulf crisis, Bush warned, “This is the first assault on the new world we seek, the first test of our mettle.” He then summed up: “a new world order” may emerge from the crisis in which the world is “freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice and more secure in the quest for peace.”
 
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THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS AN OLD IDEA!
Author Tal Brooke once wrote: “Today the pieces are falling into place for a world-wide transformation. In the not-too-distant future a New World Order, unlike anything the world has ever seen, could appear almost overnight. Could this be the global reality predicted 2,000 years ago by a prophet on the Isle of Patmos? A momentous global event is upon us – the birth of a New World Order.”

Where did the idea for the world government originate? There was, is, and always shall be avowed worshipers of Lucifer. Luciferians have lived and died promoting the worship of Lucifer through Babylonian, Egyptian, and Druid Witchcraft and are determined to overthrow all religions and governments. Their goal is to unite all nations into a “one-world government” and exalt Lucifer as the god of this world! It should become clear that Satan, himself, through an international political movement is the one behind the move for a one-world government.

Dr. Adam Weishaupt founded the Illuminati on May 1st, 1776. He earlier has planned and produced the blueprint for the French Revolution. This Apostle of Lucifer, Weishaupt, converted to Catholicism, and then turned to Witchcraft. The Illuminati is a Luciferian movement to preserve and promote the ancient Black Arts of Babylonian and Druid Witchcraft. Its goals are to destroy Christianity and all world governments, and then unite them under a one-world government whose ruler is Lucifer.

Apostles of Lucifer are using Secret Societies, Communism, International Banking, Christian fronts, and even social issues to further their diabolical plans. These modern day witches are determined to over-throw Christianity and the worship of Jesus Christ by using various means – subliminal mind sciences on the one hand, and physical force on the other.

The Luciferian plot to destroy all religions and all governments, so that a one-world Luciferian government may be established, is here today in what is known as “The New Age Movement.”

Luciferian front organizations, designed to destroy all controlling governments and religions, are the real hidden instigators of all the communist parties of the world, and communism actually derived out of spiritualism (witchcraft)!

Communists are just another pawn for a much larger circle of hidden instigators that want to provoke revolution, riots, race wars, and anarchy. The whole world is to be thrown into riot and revolution by these conspirators, as a way to frighten the inhabitants into a one-world government.

NEW AGE GLOBALISM
A current buzzword designed to hide the true intentions of those implementing one-world government, is “globalism.” The United Nations was founded upon a well-thought-out policy of globalism. This would require us to submit to the decrees of the United Nations General Assembly as law. Globalism has been a growing trend since 1973, when many famous and influential people signed the Humanist Manifesto II. The New Age Movement, which is made up of humanistic thinkers, has been very influential in causing free and affluent nations such as America to go along with the global plan for a New World Order. People operating out of self-interest do not surrender their freedoms and heritage unless they are persuaded there is something better ahead.

THE PLAN
James P. Warburg, author of the book, “The West in Crisis,” once stated his support for a world government. On February 17, 1950, Warburg also told a Senate Committee how the peoples of the world would receive this world-government: “We shall have world government whether you like it or not, if not by consent by conquest.”

Author Ralph Epperson commented: “In Addition to destroying man’s basic loyalties to family, nation and religion, the nation must be conditioned to the belief that less is better than more. The standard of living of those in the affluent nations must be reduced. This will be done by a slow, gradual process of conditioning the citizens of the rich nations to survive on less than they produce.”

The President of the Rockefeller Foundation, John Knowles, made his position very clear: “I am sure of only one thing – more is not necessarily better. Central to a new ethic of making less more is controlled economic growth which conserves scarce resources, provides more equitable distribution of income and wealth.”

When people in more productive nations have been conditioned to live with less, than they can be conditioned to share their excel wealth with less productive nations. U.S. corporations have been encouraged to move their manufacturing plants to other nations, leaving America without an industrial base. This sharing of the wealth, the exacto position proposed in the Communist Manifesto, is called the New International Economic Order. The new order calls for a more equitable distribution of the earth’s resources among the earth’s people and redistribution of wealth among rich and poor nations.

THE NEW ORDER
Tal Brooke summarized, “The New World Order will be different from anything the world has ever seen. It will be an impressive monolith of colossal power. There will be things about it that will surprise all of us – things we did not foresee. In the end, the world will require something drastic, something far beyond the ability of any man or machine to solve.”

The Apostle Peter wrote about what will happen to this despoiled and tortured planet:

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heart, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”

“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” (II Peter 3: 10,13)

A one-world government is coming. It is almost here. Christians, please understand; it is the system that must be in place before the final world ruler – the Antichrist – can ascend his throne.

The United Nations is currently developing the following:

A World Court, World Police, World Central Bank, World Treasury, an Economic Security Council, a World Trade and Production Organization, and Global Taxation.

James Gustave Speth, who headed up “Project Global 2000,” once said that “unchecked population growth” is the biggest threat to “human security” and, by the year 2015, world population needs to be stabilized at 7.3 billion.

With the world population already above six billion and rising, some are convinced that armed insurrections will accommodate the UN goal with massive exterminations. Forced abortions, planned famines, and biological warfare are other options for meeting their goal. Many are asking how long it will take the UN to implement plans to accomplish their New World Order.

As Christians, we need to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ (John 3:16) and…

KEEP LOOKING UP!

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It just shows me that the NWO is real and it's part of what must take place to usher in the end times. What I struggle with is if we're to DO anything with this knowledge. I've seen where our standard of living has dropped and continues to drop. Government regulation is oppressive. America has slid into an era that rivals Nazi Germany. Those who refuse to see it will open their eyes when it's on their doorstep. I already saw my neighbor's grandson executed by police who weren't held accountable. I saw a friend heartbroken over police sexually molesting her daughter. I've seen patients denied humane care. I was denied care in a hospital and left to writhe in pain because of open borders. No one cared. When it comes to your area you'll see.

I think just like the writer stated above, our standard of living is going to drop. I think more and more people are going to flood here and we'll be just like Europe - the men are emasculated and none will fight when vulgar things happened. Only one man stood up: Tommy Robinson and they locked him up. I think that's part of the reason for the police force being out of control; to instill fear. Look online at some of your fellow Americans getting their faces bashed in by those sworn to "protect" them. You'll see we're not in America anymore.
 

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It's more of a rude awakening to me because I was brainwashed to believe that we were the good guys. Pledge Allegiance to the flag and all that. Then when I really began to look at the truth, I saw that we're not the good guys. I recall reading about all the Vietnamese women who were raped by American soldiers. I read of one particularly heinous thing American soldiers did to the women. The blinders came off - bit by bit. I read what America did to Guatemala - a big-wig in the Bush administration wanted to make $$$ and bought land in Guatemala and put all the local Guatemalan farmers out of business. That's why many there are moving to America. It's terrible what has been done. I don't know how those people live with themselves. Correction; I do know: the have a 'seared' conscience.

We used to be a nation more-or-less dominated by Christians--or at least, the Christian ethos. The unbelieving super-wealthy (remember, Jesus said that it was very difficult for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God) have always tried to control the nation, to their benefit. Through intermediaries, they employed bribery, blackmail, economic manipulation, lies, smears, canny persuasion and thuggery of one sort or another, to attempt and finally succeed in putting a bit in the mouth of the powerful economic horse that, by the early part of the 20th century, the U.S. had become. Here is an article which discusses the workings of those who would control government officials--often to the detriment of their citizens: PRESIDENT WILSON BLACKMAILED - Historicist.com The Protestant Interpretation of Biblical Prophecy. The Historical Alternative

The Manipulations of 1913
In 1913, the adoption of the private Federal Reserve System that year, handed over the control of the nation's money supply to private interests--which was against the U.S. Constitution. The European and American bankers achieved it through chicanery (read The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin). Jekyll Island was where they met secretly, under pseudonyms, in order to hatch their plot. President Woodrow Wilson, who signed the Federal Reserve Act into law, said later, "I fear I have ruined my country." Thomas Jefferson, among many, had warned about exactly that.

Franklin, Adams and Jefferson vs. The Bankers
The brilliant patriot, Benjamin Franklin, influenced his good friends, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson (the second and third presidents) to adamantly oppose the idea of private central banking in the U.S. Franklin had, on his trips to Europe, seen the economic ravages wrought on the middle and lower classes of Europe, caused by the extreme economic stratification of private central banking. The bankers were a new kind of nobility--building or buying enormous estates, while the middle and lower classes struggled, often in misery, to put food on the table--virtual slaves to the European system.

Franklin, a Pennsylvanian, favored the monetary system which had been in place in the Pennsylvania colony for fifty years prior to the American Revolution. He understood that the control of the issuance of the currency was a critical measure for governments to have, if they were to avoid being ruled by moneyed interests. (It was thought to be so important to the stability of the American Republic that the U.S. Constitution specifically gives the issuance of the currency to the government.) The colonial government of Pennsylvania had issued currency based on the estimated value of all land and industry in the colony--rather than the debt-based system of the central bankers. This currency, widely used throughout the American colonies, was known as "colonial scrip" and the average Pennsylvanian colonist prospered greatly under the system which was inflation/deflation-free. But, the greedy elitist/royalist bankers at the private Bank of England, saw the growing prosperity of the largely middle-class colonies and pushed the British Parliament to outlaw colonial scrip in favor of the British pound (which they controlled through increasing or decreasing the interest rates, causing deflation or inflation at will). The Pennsylvania colony was plunged nearly overnight into unemployment and poverty. To his dying day, Franklin maintained that the real reason for the American Revolutionary War was that rule by Parliament. He insisted that the colonists would have grudgingly put up with an increase in the tax on tea, but taking their system of money away was just too much for the colonists to bear.

Andrew Jackson and the Bankers
But, even after Americans had gained their independence, the European central bankers were not about to give up their plans. Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of the Treasury under President Washington, an agent of European central bankers, urged the establishment of a private central bank of the U.S. He might have succeeded, had he not been killed in a duel with Thomas Jefferson's vice president, Aaron Burr, over a smear campaign Hamilton had initiated against Burr. However, even then, the struggle against the bankers continued. A little more than three decades later, the dying words of the very popular President, Andrew Jackson were: "I fought the banks." A number of historians believe that an earlier assassination attempt on Jackson's life was put in place by the European central bankers.

Lincoln, Czar Alexander II and the Bankers
Another three decades later, during the U.S. Civil War, (probably instigated by the influence of international bankers) Lincoln resisted them in their usurious demands for 24% to 34% interest on the money he needed to borrow to finance the war. Lincoln instead floated the "greenback dollar" to finance the war, at no interest to the Union government. The powerful, private Bank of England placed editorials in The Times of London, ranting about Lincoln (you can read them online). Here is one of their more outrageous statements: "If that mischievous financial policy, which has its origins in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and will be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of civilized governments of the world. The brains and the wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

The British Parliament, under unremitting pressure from European central bankers, agreed to send a British naval expeditionary force (along with the same from France) to interrupt the Union trade blockade of the Confederacy. Lincoln heard about their plans and appealed to his friend, Czar Alexander II of Russia (who was also struggling against the bankers' plans to put in place a private central bank in Russia). The Czar was fascinated by the "American experiment" and had urged Lincoln to free the slaves, as he intended to free the serfs from the land, in Russia. Czar Alexander agreed to send a force from the mighty Imperial Navy of Russia to prevent the British and French from disrupting the Union blockade of the Confederacy. When the British and French understood (through their spies in the Union government) that the Russian navy was on the way, they scooted back to Europe. The blockade was thus successful, and the Union was saved. Lincoln well understood that, if the Union had failed, the British and French would be only too ready to retake former colonies and the "American experiment" of "government of the people, by the people and for the people" would have failed. He said as much at the end of his Gettysburg Address. Had Lincoln caved to the interest demands of the European bankers, the U.S. would likely still be making payments on the Civil War debt. Measures have been put in place since 1913 to reduce the amount of interest money handed over to the bankers but they remain in control of the money supply to this day. In the words of a famous central banker, "Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes its laws." Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth who was, according to some historians, almost certainly an agent of the Bank of England. They know he had several close associates there. Czar Alexander II was also assassinated. In addition, it is known that the European central bankers financed the Bolshevik Revolution that put an end to Romanov rule in Russia. The grandson of Czar Alexander II--Nicholas II--was slaughtered, along with his entire family, by the Bolsheviks. (continued on next post)
 
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We used to be a nation more-or-less dominated by Christians--or at least, the Christian ethos. The unbelieving super-wealthy (remember, Jesus said that it was very difficult for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God) have always tried to control the nation, to their benefit. Through intermediaries, they employed bribery, blackmail, economic manipulation, lies, smears, canny persuasion and thuggery of one sort or another, to attempt and finally succeed in putting a bit in the mouth of the powerful economic horse that, by the early part of the 20th century, the U.S. had become. Here is an article which discusses the workings of those who would control government officials--often to the detriment of their citizens: PRESIDENT WILSON BLACKMAILED - Historicist.com The Protestant Interpretation of Biblical Prophecy. The Historical Alternative

The Manipulations of 1913
In 1913, through the adoption of the private Federal Reserve System that year handed over the control of the nation's money supply to private interests--which was against the U.S. Constitution. The European and American bankers achieved it through chicanery (read The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin). Jekyll Island was where they met secretly, under pseudonyms, in order to hatch their plot. President Woodrow Wilson, who signed the Federal Reserve Act into law, said later, "I fear I have ruined my country." Thomas Jefferson, among many, had warned about exactly that.

Franklin, Adams and Jefferson vs. The Bankers
The brilliant patriot, Benjamin Franklin, influenced his good friends, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson to adamantly oppose the idea of private central banking in the U.S. Franklin had, on his trips to Europe, seen the economic ravages wrought on the middle and lower classes of Europe, caused by the extreme economic stratification of private central banking. The bankers were a new kind of nobility--building or buying enormous estates, while the middle and lower classes struggled, often in misery, to put food on the table--virtual slaves to the European system.

Franklin, a Pennsylvanian, favored a monetary system after the style of the earlier Pennsylvania colony. The U.S. Constitution gives the control of the money supply to the government. Franklin understood that the control of the issuance of the currency was a critical measure for governments to have, if they were not to be ruled by moneyed interests. Prior to the American Revolution, the colonial government of Pennsylvania had issued currency based on the estimated value of all land and industry in the colony--rather than the debt-based system of the central bankers. This currency, widely used throughout the American colonies, was known as "colonial scrip" and the average Pennsylvanian colonist prospered greatly under the system which was inflation/deflation-free. But, the greedy elitist/royalist bankers at the private Bank of England, saw the growing prosperity of the largely middle-class colonies and pushed the British Parliament to outlaw colonial scrip in favor of the British pound (which they controlled through increasing or decreasing the interest rates, causing deflation or inflation at will). The Pennsylvania colony was plunged nearly overnight into unemployment and poverty. To his dying day, Franklin maintained that the real reason for the American Revolutionary War was that rule by Parliament. He insisted that the colonists would have grudgingly put up with an increase in the tax on tea, but taking their system of money away was just too much for the colonists to bear.

Andrew Jackson and the Bankers
But, even after Americans had gained their independence, the European central bankers were not about to give up their plans. Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of the Treasury under President Washington, an agent of European central bankers, urged the establishment of a private central bank of the U.S. He might have succeeded, had he not been killed in a duel with Thomas Jefferson's vice president, Aaron Burr, over a smear campaign Hamilton had initiated against Burr. However, even then, the struggle against the bankers continued. A little more than three decades later, the dying words of the very popular President, Andrew Jackson were: "I fought the banks." A number of historians believe that an earlier assassination attempt on Jackson's life was put in place by the European central bankers.

Lincoln, Czar Alexander II and the Bankers
Another three decades later, during the U.S. Civil War, (probably instigated by the influence of international bankers) Lincoln resisted them in their usurious demands for 24% to 34% interest on the money he needed to borrow to finance the war. Lincoln instead floated the "greenback dollar" to finance the war, at no interest to the Union government. The powerful, private Bank of England placed editorials in The Times of London, ranting about Lincoln (you can read them online). Here is one of their more outrageous statements: "If that mischievous financial policy, which has its origins in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and will be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of civilized governments of the world. The brains and the wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

The British Parliament, under unremitting pressure from European central bankers, agreed to send a British naval expeditionary force (along with the same from France) to interrupt the Union trade blockade of the Confederacy. Lincoln heard about their plans and appealed to his friend, Czar Alexander II of Russia (who was also struggling against the bankers' plans to put in place a private central bank in Russia). The Czar was fascinated by the "American experiment" and had urged Lincoln to free the slaves, as he intended to free the serfs in Russia from the land. Czar Alexander agreed to send a force from the mighty Imperial Navy of Russia to prevent the British and French from disrupting the Union blockade of the Confederacy. When the British and French understood (through their spies in the Union government) that the Russian navy was on the way, they scooted back to Europe. The blockade was thus successful, and the Union was saved. Lincoln well understood that, if the Union had failed, the British and French would be only too ready to take back former colonies and the "American experiment" of "government of the people, by the people and for the people" would have failed. He said as much at the end of his Gettysburg Address. Had Lincoln caved to the interest demands of the European bankers, the U.S. would likely still be making payments on the Civil War debt. We have had measures put in place since 1913 to reduce the amount of interest money handed over to the bankers but they remain in control of the money supply to this day. In the words of a famous central banker, "Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes its laws." Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth who was, according to some historians, almost certainly an agent of the Bank of England--they know he had several close associates there. Czar Alexander II was also assassinated. In addition, it is known that the European central bankers financed the Bolshevik Revolution that put an end to Romanov rule in Russia. The grandson of Czar Alexander II--Nicholas II--was slaughtered, along with his entire family, by the Bolsheviks. (continued on next post)

Wilson and WWI
In 1917, the U.S. entered WWI under the urging of Justice Brandeis who President Wilson was almost certainly coerced into selecting for a Supreme Court vacancy. (PRESIDENT WILSON BLACKMAILED - Historicist.com The Protestant Interpretation of Biblical Prophecy. The Historical Alternative) At the same time, the Internal Revenue Act of 1913 was put into place to siphon off vast amounts of wealth from the wages of the productive middle classes. It was pledged to government coffers in order to enable the U.S. government to borrow the large amounts needed to finance wars (wars are always excellent money-makers for the super-wealthy). It is not surprising that the U.S. entered WWI just a scant four years later. Up til that point, the U.S. had always been wary of being entangled in European wars (of which there were many--and the primary reason why many droves of Europeans immigrated to the U.S.). This isolationist stance was a vexation to the international central bankers and they set out to destroy isolationism in the U.S. In the above linked article, Churchill was quoted as saying that the U.S. should have stayed out of WWI and the reasons why--among them, that Russia would not have been overtaken by the communists of the Bolshevik Revolution.

And then we have WWII and the Prescott Bush affair (Prescott Bush was the father of George H.W. Bush). Too long to go into here but know that the elder Bush's bank, was convicted under the Trading With The Enemy Act, for handling financial transactions for the Nazis, during the war. And this while Prescott's son, George, was serving as a pilot in the U.S. Navy. Nice, eh? You can look it up online if it hasn't been scrubbed. Prescott Bush also became a U.S. Senator after that.
 
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Other Presidents:
JFK was furious with CIA Director, Alan Dulles, accusing him of holding back important information about Cuba and Vietnam. He fired Dulles and was assassinated soon after. Robert Kennedy, according to close friends, always believed that the CIA was behind the assassination. LBJ was much more compliant and after the CIA-orchestrated Gulf of Tonkin "false flag," caused the drastic build-up of U.S. forces in Vietnam.

Nixon was disposed of by Watergate. Jimmy Carter was neutralized by the Washington establishment. Reagan was more of a problem. But Bush was totally bought into the globalist plan. Clinton was too--his favorite professor at Georgetown was globalism fan, Carroll Quigley. Bush the younger had no choice but to be bought in. Obama was an unabashed globalist.
 
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Trump allocating $100 million for daughter Ivanka's global project: Trump budget to include $100M for daughter Ivanka's project


$100 million is an extremely tiny portion of the U.S. budget--especially when you consider that the budget for the war machine is something in the neighborhood of $900 Billion. Americans are a generous people--why wouldn't they want to help those around the world who are less fortunate? That doesn't mean that Americans want to give up the sovereignty of their nation in favor of a world government.
 
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$100 million is an extremely tiny portion of the U.S. budget--especially when you consider that the budget for the war machine is something in the neighborhood of $900 Billion. Americans are a generous people--why wouldn't they want to help those around the world who are less fortunate? That doesn't mean that Americans want to give up the sovereignty of their nation in favor of a world government.

That article was just a small, single example of how the Trump admin is not "nationalist", as Trump said he was - this is just another global project of his administration. Nothing more than that really; nothing whatsoever pertaining to the American people giving up their sovereignty in favor of a world government.
 
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Islam is allegedly a creation of the Catholic church...Why the Catholic church would create Islam is beyond what I've looked into yet, but everything is all coming together.

Muhammad's first wife, Khadija, was a Roman Catholic. She influenced Muhammad a great deal. When he had doubts about his experiences, she encouraged him that they were really true. There has been a lot written on this topic and there are even Roman clergy who have claimed that the rumors are true.
 

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That article was just a small, single example of how the Trump admin is not "nationalist", as Trump said he was - this is just another global project of his administration. Nothing more than that really; nothing whatsoever pertaining to the American people giving up their sovereignty in favor of a world government.

He is surrounded by neocon RINO globalists (Trump can't administer the government all by himself). He seems to have rooted out most of the neoliberal globalists from powerful positions in the administration. There's only so much a President can do, when he has even members of his party against him. A number of the neocons have left office--neocon, RINO Paul Ryan was one of the more powerful globalists in the GOP. Mitch McConnell is another. I think that McConnell personally likes Trump but he thinks it is much too late for second thoughts about globalism.
 
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He is surrounded by neocon RINO globalists (Trump can't administer the government all by himself). He seems to have rooted out most of the neoliberal globalists from powerful positions in the administration. There's only so much a President can do, when he has even members of his party against him. A number of the neocons have left office--neocon, RINO Paul Ryan was one of the more powerful globalists in the GOP. Mitch McConnell is another. I think that McConnell personally likes Trump but he thinks it is much too late for second thoughts about globalism.

Trump is initiating and executing policies that are global efforts, in contrast to policies one would expect from a person that stated over and over, and proudly, that he is a nationalist.

We're not talking about administration RINO globalists here, because they haven't stated they are nationalists proudly and arrogantly then put forth globalist policies. Trump is deceptive in his words and actions.
 
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I like people questioning this because it causes me to research into it. I read this:

It has been several years since the term “New World Order was widely used. It almost seems as if it faded from the world scene after George Bush (father) popularized the term in the 1990’s. His use of the term didn’t set too well with conservative voters. After a glorious victory over Iraq, he became a one-term president. Politicians learned not to use the cliché around voters. But across the pond, in stodgy old Europe, the New World Order is as popular as ever.

Just six weeks after 9/11, Belgium’s Prime Minister, Guy Verhofstadt, while serving as President-in-Office of the European Council, gave a speech in Warsaw, Poland, at the opening ceremony of the College of Europe, on the very subject of the emerging New World Order. He spoke to students at the beginning of their academic year. He noted the need for Europe to become a model for an emerging New World Order. He mentioned that the United Nations was organized to establish the “New World Order” and that the United States, under former president, George Bush, had tried and failed.

George Bush senior who, in 1991, two years after the fall of the Berlin Wall and shortly after the victory against Saddam Hussein, issued a call the a New World Order…A New World Order built or protected by the United States alone turned out to be an illusion. Verhofstadt went on to say, “And yet, we now need a New World Order more than ever before. A world order in which American leadership will of course remain a key element, if only because it will remain the only country with a global military force until such time as Europe develops a defense capability of its own. But the other continents, and especially Europe, must make a major contribution to building this New World Order. How can we find a stronger and more effective alternative to a system based on the United Nations with its 189 formally sovereign states? We need to find a new path, a middle way. We could order the world on the basis of existing regional cooperation organizations: The European Union, ASEAN, Mercosur, NAFTA, the African Union, the Arab League and SAARC in southern Asia. In this context, we should also include countries like China, Russia, and Japan, and the whole of Oceania. We need to take a first step down the path towards a global form of federalism, a structure where the reality of an increasingly interactive world is finally made a political reality too. In fact, a structure of this kind was already planned when the United Nations was created in 1945, but was never implemented after the Cold War.

“We need a global political vision, a political counterweight capable of reining in uncontrolled forces, be they market forces or ideological forces. The European Union is the model, which shows this is possible. The European Union has become a model for regional cooperation agreements worldwide; a source of inspiration for the structures of a new world yet to be created. What I have tried to do today is to prove that the European Union is the most generous political project on our continent, a project that can be held up as an example for a New World Order that will truly begin to close the gap between rich and poor.. Now, as we stand on the threshold of the 21st century, I find it hard to imagine a greater political ambition.”

IT’S JUST A MATTER OF TIME!
A “coming one-world political, economic and religious system” has been predicted by most Bible prophecy teachers for as long as anyone can remember. Old Testament prophets referred to the condition of the world at the time of the end. Jesus had more to say about the status of the world at the time of His return than any of the writers of the New Testament. He talked about the signs of His coming in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 17 and 21.

The Apostle Paul spoke about the last days, Peter, Jude and John, climaxing about the coming New World Order.

Past president George Bush, along with Mikhail Gorbachev, popularized the terms, “New World Order,” “New International Order,” and “new partnership of nations.” In George Bush’s address to a joint session of Congress of September 11, 1990, his entire theme and focus was “The New World Order.” In speaking of the Persian Gulf crisis, Bush warned, “This is the first assault on the new world we seek, the first test of our mettle.” He then summed up: “a new world order” may emerge from the crisis in which the world is “freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice and more secure in the quest for peace.”
I'm not sure how genuine listening to those who rep the Central Bank talking about any "new world order" is tbh? Iow inferring a coming "world order" is possibly a great way to hide the world order that we already have maybe
 
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Trump is initiating and executing policies that are global efforts, in contrast to policies one would expect from a person that stated over and over, and proudly, that he is a nationalist.

We're not talking about administration RINO globalists here, because they haven't stated they are nationalists proudly and arrogantly then put forth globalist policies. Trump is deceptive in his words and actions.

I do not agree.
 

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I'm not sure how genuine listening to those who rep the Central Bank talking about any "new world order" is tbh? Iow inferring a coming "world order" is possibly a great way to hide the world order that we already have maybe

I often think that there is an air of theater about much of what goes on in national and international politics.