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An Ode for the looming Brexit situation in Great Britain?

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  1. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    Things are getting serious over the Pond.

    The Mother of Parliaments censures the UK Government for a lack of transparency.

    The British Prime Minister, after 17 months of Brexit negotiations, and after enthusiastically and lengthily promising to back its own motion for the House of Commons to approve the Government's own (at least, so called) Brexit deal, yesterday adjourns it suddenly, without giving the House of Commons the opportunity even to take a view on the adjournment.

    The Speaker of the House of Commons, in response, derides the UK Government for its blatant disrespect for Parliament, in so doing.

    I do wonder if in hindsight the lyrics of Sarah Brightman's Adagio (Albinoni/Giazotto) in G minor / 'Anytime, anywhere', can be viewed as a kind of ode to Great Britain's situation against background of the vivid Brexit events coming to a dénouement.



    LYRICS: Strade son´ cambiate Faccie son diverse Era la mia città Non la conosco più La ora Io sono solo un´ estranea senza patria I remember you where there Anyone emotion Any true devotion Anytime, anywhere Case son´ cambiate Voci son´ diverse Era la mia città Non la conosco più La ora Io sono solo un´ estranea senza patria I remember you where there Anyone emotion Any true devotion Anytime, anywhere Tanti anni son´ passati Vite son´ cambiate Era la mia città Non la conosco più La ora Io sono solo un´ estranea senza patria

    (Tr. ...It was my city, I recognize it no more...I am only a stranger without a country)
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    1 Timothy 2.1-2:

    "I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

    For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty."
     
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  2. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    That is the least of its crimes. The UK government should be indicted for treachery and treason.
     
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    farouk Well-Known Member

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    I thought the song and its lyrics, if applied to the grave situation, is somewhat poignant.
     
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    Very true...and ours here too!! :rolleyes:
    Ours has finished off what his father started...he managed to bring Canada to it's knees. It has been a well planned operation.

    The MP Enoch Powell back in the 60 said this would happen to England..he was right...but they shut him up, and kicked him out.

    But, then again, if it is all in God's Plan then we look up, our redemption draws nigh. ✟
     
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  5. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    So what did you think of the song? :)
     
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    All the government said that the people of the UK got it wrong from the start of Brexit, that means that this mob do not respect the Voters will in fact. they are undermining Democracy the low life bastards.

    Thee UK is big enough not to have to be screwed down to the EU Socialist will.

    I see the EU as being very much likened to Hitler's plan to control all of Europe under one Socialist banner, not to mention that they are just an unelected bunch of dictating thugs ruling over the people and bleeding them dry just like the Vampires that they are, not to mention trying to push fear tactics into all who don't bow down to all of their degenerate demands.
     
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    Prime Minister May's own party members have triggered a no confidence vote in her leadership.

    The result of the vote among Conservative Party members should be known by about 8PM GMT / 3PM Eastern Standard Time, Wednesday 12th.
     
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    Result: Yesterday, the Prime Minister survived the no confidence vote among her party's Members of Parliament, 200 to 117. Since most of those who supported her hold government posts, and to vote against her would mean having to resign from the Government, this means that only about 30 of her backbenchers supported her in the no confidence vote.

    I thought the song and lyrics in the OP were rather expressive.
     
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    Theresa May was TOTALLY UNQUALIFIED to be Prime Minister of the UK at this critical time. Her specialty is dithering around. And it is rather late in the day to be having no confidence in her leadership.

    This is where the Crown should have provide some leadership and told May on July 13, 2016 to go home and enjoy her retirement (in a manner of speaking). But the Royals go on their merry way having fun, while their country goes down the drain.
     
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    Yeah as really think that May is on her last leg. The way for now she has a confidence vote. But for how long will she wear out her welcome, this could be in the beginning of the end.
     
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    Unfortunately deviousness and manipulation are deeply ingrained into the way the British Establishment works - copious examples could be given - and if one can't believe anything they say, then there is plenty of precedent for it.
     
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    But those in the UK government are as socialistic and Left-Liberal as the EU gangsters themselves. The UK had no need to join the EU in the first place. But the treason is at the top, and no one will say a word about it. The entire system needs a thorough overhaul, but it is too late already.
     
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    It's interesting that the moves toward what became the European Union began already during WW2 and afterwards through the influence of the OSS and CIA.
     
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    Oh come off it!
    The crown is allowed no say whatever in anything.
    The Queen is a captive, 'tied' , a figure head, as all of the kings have been political captives since the time of Queen Victoria.
     
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    Yes, it's great fun
    I think it may go to another referendum- and that's what many want now, including many that voted for us to leave.
    Rita
     
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    I cannot really remember all the ins and outs of us going in as I was a young teenager and I didn't really understand it all. I agree that the EU needs to change, my brother lives in Germany and he agrees that it's a mess, but he is also in favour of us staying in rather than leave.
    I am totally fed up with it all, but I do pray about it.
    Rita
     
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    She has already said that she will not take the party into the next general election- but because she survived the lack of confidence vote they cannot do anything for another year.
    Rita
     
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    Mainly true, but by rights she can kick them all out of office, it's her parliament, but she dropped the ball after her mum died and the whole thing is run by a group of people who work only to in hance the image of the Monarch to stupid people.
    She is the head of their Church also and she has lost the handle on that as well, with no moral leadership at all.
    Maybe she is too old and has lost the plot not to mention that the grand kids are going down the same path as there stupid mother in becoming just niggers for the media who control them. so what's the point when the Satanic media control such idiots.
    Get rid of them I say, sadly. I say that and I am related to the Monarch.
    The Socialist have it in the bag and there will only be hell to pay due to such Anti-Christ leading Nations down the garden path.
    The me me generations will become the you you generation when the Socialist evolve into Communist and the poor bastards realise that they have all become Slaves to Satan and they will deserve what they will get because they are just truly niggers, idiots, fools who are lost, they have lost there freedoms because they don't deserve freedom, because they are to foolish and ignorant or stupid. they have been lead astray for their wants like a spoilt brat who wants everything there own way and then this type get in charge, they could not run a business or anything for that matter but will only run everything into the ground and that's what we are seeing nowadays everywhere, incompetent dickheads in control of everything and if you are competent you are dragged down for it, by the Socialist games in play like idolising the Political Correctness gods that you must follow or they will kick up a great stink of malice to try to destroy them.

    The EU is a monster of unelected Satanic Socialist with such powers much like the Nazis tried to peddle, if a Nation wants to leave, why not ! why can't they still can be in control of their own Nations without some dictatorship like the EU forcing them to do their bidding, looking after all the fat cats and kicking all the middle class around. fact is if you destroy the middle class and a country is finished and that's what Socialism is all about, everyone is forced to become the lowest denominator and kept down, but there is always the ones at the top who have total power over all.
    Dictators always attack freedom of speech and that's how they have always taken over.
     
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    My guess is that she will table a confidence vote linked with the so called Brexit (it's not Brexit!) deal and try to force her own backbenchers to support the deal on pain of the Government falling and of the backbenchers losing the Conservative whip.

    This is the device that the most uninspiring Major government tried over 25 years ago with the Maastricht treaty: the treaty was only passed because the government linked it with a confidence vote.

    I guess some sceptics who won't abide the deal disaster going in the name of Brexit will reason that Mrs May has already destroyed the Conservative Party, and won't be leading the Party into the next election, so why not put principle before career and vote for what they believe in (i.e., not this so called Brexit deal which keeps the UK under EU law, truncates the United Kingdom and gives the EU 39 billion that could be better spent elsewhere) and finally put Mrs. May's Prime Ministership out of its misery. How many will do this remains to be seen.

    (One can't necessarily believe a word most of the MPs say in any case.)
     
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