And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

[Jack]

I believe the promises of Christ were fulfilled faithfully. That is the central point I’m emphasizing. Jesus said His word would not fail: “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away” (Matthew 24:35). I take Him at His word.

I believe He was seen, and that those He promised to gather were taken just as He said He would. Jesus assured His disciples, “I will come again and receive you to Myself” (John 14:3). My confidence rests in His faithfulness to what He told them.

“Faithfully” is the key issue here, Peter. Scripture consistently presents God as One who keeps His promises: “The One who calls you is faithful, and He will do it” (1 Thessalonians 5:24).

I also recognize that the dating of when certain books were written is debated among scholars. That’s not new. But for me, the foundation is simple: I do not believe Jesus or His apostles were liars. Paul said plainly, “We have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways… we refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word” (2 Corinthians 4:2). Their integrity is part of the testimony.

And this is where the weight of the matter really lands:
If Jesus did not receive the bride of Christ when He said He would, then the entire biblical narrative would be open to scrutiny. Scripture presents His promise as certain: “Behold, the Lord comes quickly, and His reward is with Him” (Revelation 22:12). If that failed, everything else would be called into question.

My position is rooted in trusting that He did exactly what He said, when He said He would.

You believe this already happened too?

Revelation 20:15
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[MatthewG]

This what is stand on.

I believe the promises of Christ were fulfilled faithfully, just as He said they would be. Jesus declared, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away” (Matthew 24:35). That is the foundation of my confidence—I take Him at His word.

I believe He was seen physically after His resurrection, exactly as Scripture records: “He presented Himself alive… being seen by them during forty days” (Acts 1:3). And I believe those He promised to gather were taken just as He said He would. Jesus assured His disciples, “I will come again and receive you to Myself” (John 14:3). My trust rests in His faithfulness to what He told them.

“Faithfully” is the key issue here. Scripture consistently presents God as One who keeps His promises: “The One who calls you is faithful, and He will do it” (1 Thessalonians 5:24).

I understand that the dating of certain New Testament writings is debated. But for me, the core conviction is simple: Jesus and His apostles were not liars. Paul wrote, “We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word” (2 Corinthians 4:2). Their integrity is part of the testimony.

This is why the timing matters. If Jesus did not receive the bride of Christ when He said He would, then the entire biblical narrative would be open to scrutiny. Yet Scripture presents His promise as certain: “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me” (Revelation 22:12).

I believe this gathering happened at the end of the age—the end of the Mosaic age, not the end of the physical world. Jesus said plainly that all these things would occur within the lifetime of His hearers:
“All these things will come upon this generation” (Matthew 23:36).
“This generation will not pass away until all these things take place” (Matthew 24:34).

The apostles understood they were living in that transition. Paul wrote that “the ends of the ages have come” upon them (1 Corinthians 10:11). Hebrews says Christ appeared “at the end of the age” to put away sin (Hebrews 9:26).

Jesus also foretold the complete destruction of the Temple—“Not one stone shall be left here upon another” (Matthew 24:2)—which occurred in AD 70, marking the definitive end of the old covenant system.

My conviction is straightforward: Jesus said these things would happen, and I believe He fulfilled them exactly as He promised.

I don’t have to say much else.
No jack I don’t believe I’m part of the book of life that had to do with the tribes if you ask me, yes it was already done the great white throne judgement at the end of the age. The book of life is mentioned in the Old Testament and I believe it refers to the tribes and their genealogy it was all burnt up and laid to waste in 70ad.

I could be wrong but in sharing what’s truly in my own heart.

I don’t gotta worry bout my name in a book.

I just believe people have faith or have relationship with God and that’s what matters.

No my name in some book.

 

[Jack]

This what is stand on.



I don’t have to say much else.
No jack I don’t believe I’m part of the book of life that had to do with the tribes if you ask me, yes it was already done the great white throne judgement at the end of the age. The book of life is mentioned in the Old Testament and I believe it refers to the tribes and their genealogy it was all burnt up and laid to waste in 70ad.


I just believe people have faith or don’t have relationship with God and that’s what matters.

No my name in some book.

This already happened? LOL!

Revelation 20:15
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Stay tuned Matt! Dead ahead!

 

[Jack]

This what is stand on.



I don’t have to say much else.
No jack I don’t believe I’m part of the book of life that had to do with the tribes if you ask me, yes it was already done the great white throne judgement at the end of the age. The book of life is mentioned in the Old Testament and I believe it refers to the tribes and their genealogy it was all burnt up and laid to waste in 70ad.

I could be wrong but in sharing what’s truly in my own heart.

I don’t gotta worry bout my name in a book.

I just believe people have faith or have relationship with God and that’s what matters.

No my name in some book.

Did this already happen too Matt?

Matthew 13:49-50
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be SCREAMING and gnashing of teeth.

 

[MatthewG]

Yes it did happen. But that’s okay if you disagree. I do believe the refers to their genaology. People were thrown into a lake of fire pit. That was real and physical known as ghenna. It no longer burns today. Yahavah is a consuming fire that to me eats up darkness with in us, this fire. Some see it as a purification thing.

 

[Jack]

Yes it did happen. But that’s okay if you disagree. I do believe the refers to their genaology. People were thrown into a lake of fire pit. That was real and physical known as ghenna. It no longer burns today. Yahavah is a consuming fire that to me eats up darkness with in us, this fire. Some see it as a purification thing.

And your proof is ZERO as usual. Just your imagination! Ain't no Yahavah in any English Bible I've read! Why do you constantly make stuff up? You said you have me on ignore. Don't blame me for your lies.

 

[MatthewG]

I just have faith. That’s what pleases Yahavah.

It’s not like we have proof that God exist in the first place.

You have a good morning now: so if God does exist I choose to believe he does.

I can’t call down the Shekian Glory in the church to just make it so lol.

 

[Jack]

I just have faith. That’s what pleases Yahavah.

Ain't no Yahavah Matt! Why don't you stick with the English Bibles?

It’s not like we have proof that God exist in the first place.

We have plenty of proof! You should read the Bible some time before it's too late.

You have a good morning now: so if God does exist I goose to believe he does.

You 'goose'?

I can’t call down the Shekian Glory in the church to just make it so lol.

Shekian? You need HELP Matt!

 

[MatthewG]

Ain't no Yahavah Matt! Why don't you stick with the English Bibles?

We have plenty of proof! You should read the Bible some time before it's too late.

You 'goose'?

Shekian? You need HELP Matt!

I’m done talking now. Goodbye.

 

[Jack]

I’m done talking now. Goodbye.

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

 

[MatthewG]

I often wonder what our existence will be like in the life to come. Scripture gives us glimpses—not a full blueprint, but enough to stir both hope and reverence. In Revelation, the gates of the heavenly kingdom are described as never being shut (Revelation 21:25), which suggests an openness toward all who desire to draw near to God. At the same time, it depicts those who choose darkness remaining outside by their own will (Revelation 22:14–15).

We also see the imagery of the lake of fire, a symbol many interpret as final judgment. Yet even there, Scripture affirms that Yeshua is the One who holds all authority (Revelation 1:18). And Hebrews reminds us that “our God is a consuming fire” (Hebrews 12:29). Fire in Scripture is not merely destructive—it purifies, refines, and reveals. As Malachi writes, “He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver” (Malachi 3:3).

Fire has a dual nature. It can warm and protect, or it can burn and cleanse. I’m grateful for its existence—both the comfort it brings and the sobering reminder of its power. In the same way, Yahavah’s presence is both love and consuming holiness. “God is love” (1 John 4:8), yet His love is not passive; it transforms everything it touches.

Some portray God as a monster, eager to destroy. But Scripture consistently reveals Yahavah as the God of life (Psalm 36:9), whose judgments are righteous, not cruel. Sadly, there are people who look forward to destruction with an evil demeanor, forgetting that God “takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked” (Ezekiel 33:11).

If the lake of fire proceeds from Yahavah Himself, and if Yeshua stands at the center of all judgment and mercy, then perhaps—even beyond this life—there remains the possibility that souls may yet turn toward the light. While Scripture does not speak definitively on this mystery, it does affirm that “the gates will never be shut” and that the Spirit and the Bride say, ‘Come’ (Revelation 22:17). The heart of God has always been to draw people into His kingdom, not to push them away.

 

[Jack]

We also see the imagery of the lake of fire, a symbol many interpret as final judgment.

It's not a symbol Matt! Jesus said it's FACT!

 

[Scott Downey]

This also has not happened

Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 21 - New King James Version

All Things Made New - Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud...

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3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.

4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Death, sorrow, crying, pain are all here today in abundance

 

[Scott Downey]

The wicked are with us still, they are not yet separated - severed from the just. The gospel of God has a consistent message about the end.

The wicked are cut off from the land of the living and cast into the fire.

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

6 And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. 7 He who overcomes [d]shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.

8 But the cowardly, [e]unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 13 - 21st Century King James Version

The same day, Jesus went out of the house and sat by the seaside. And great multitudes were gathered together unto Him, so that He went into a boat and sat, and the whole multitude stood on the shore. And He spoke many things unto them in parables, saying, "Behold, a sower went forth to sow. And...

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47 “Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a net that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind,

48 which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth and sever the wicked from among the just,

50 and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”

51 Jesus said unto them, “Have ye understood all these things?” They said unto Him, “Yea, Lord.”

 

[MatthewG]

This also has not happened

Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 21 - New King James Version

All Things Made New - Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud...

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3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.

4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Death, sorrow, crying, pain are all here today in abundance

There is no death, sorrow, crying, or pain in the Lord Yeshua, for He has already overcome these things in the spiritual realm. “For the former things have passed away” (Revelation 21:4). In Him, the believer participates in a victory that is real, present, and transformative.

Yet in this world, the flesh still experiences suffering. Our bodies still feel pain, still weep, and still face physical death. Scripture acknowledges this tension openly: “Though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day” (2 Corinthians 4:16).

What you have—what every believer has—is a spiritual overcoming through Yeshua, a triumph that begins now and continues into eternity. “In all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us” (Romans 8:37).

I believe you understand what I’m saying: the spirit already walks in resurrection life, even while the body remains in a world touched by decay. “The Spirit gives life” (John 6:63).

 

[Jack]

There is no death, sorrow, crying, or pain in the Lord Yeshua,

Christians don't die, nor have sorrow, nor cry, nor have pain?

You're a HOOT Matt!

 

[Jack]

There is no death, sorrow, crying, or pain in the Lord Yeshua, for He has already overcome these things in the spiritual realm. “For the former things have passed away” (Revelation 21:4). In Him, the believer participates in a victory that is real, present, and transformative.

Yet in this world, the flesh still experiences suffering. Our bodies still feel pain, still weep, and still face physical death. Scripture acknowledges this tension openly: “Though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day” (2 Corinthians 4:16).

What you have—what every believer has—is a spiritual overcoming through Yeshua, a triumph that begins now and continues into eternity. “In all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us” (Romans 8:37).

I believe you understand what I’m saying: the spirit already walks in resurrection life, even while the body remains in a world touched by decay. “The Spirit gives life” (John 6:63).

Why do you keep private messaging me telling me you're not gonna message me any more? And then BLOCK my replies? lol

You need HELP Matt!