Anti-Christ/Beast...Man Or Angelic Prince?

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The apostle John is the only Bible writer to mention the word "antichrist(s)", mentioning it some 5 times at 1 John 2:18 (twice), verse 22, 4:3, and 2 John 7. Yet most never carefully examine what John said about these, but rather "run off " and make up "stories" as to whom (or what) they feel it is.


At 1 John 2, John says: "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour." What did John mean by the "last hour" ?

John was aware that the Christian congregation was being attacked from both within and out, that it was the "last hour" before the foretold apostasy would fully blossom and remain until the "harvest".(Matt 13:24-30, 36-43)


In verse 19 of chapter 2, he says: "They (those who became antichrists) went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out that it might be shown up that not all are of our sort."(1 John 2:18) Thus, the antichrists originated from within the Christian congregation.


The word "antichrist" means "against (or instead of ) Christ." So, in its broadest sense, the term refers to all who oppose or lyingly claim to be Christ or his representatives. Jesus said: "He that is not on my side is against me [or is antichrist], and he that does not gather with me scatters."(Luke 11:23)


But John having written about antichrists some 60 years after Jesus death, the antichrist's activities needs to be understood in the light of how they affect Jesus loyal followers on earth, his "brothers".(Matt 25:40, 45) Jesus warned that his genuine disciples would be persecuted, saying that "people will deliver you up to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name....And many false prophets will arise and mislead many."(Matt 24:9, 11)


Thence, the persecutors of these loyal Christians are clearly antichrist, against Christ. The words of both Jesus and John plainly show that the antichrist is not a single person, but is made up of many individual antichrists. Moreover, because many are "false prophets", one of their main objectives is religious deception.


The apostle Paul warned of the teachings of apostates, such as Hymenaeus and Philetus, whose "word will spread like gangrene."(2 Tim 2:17) Also there were the Gnostics who believed that knowledge could be derived in a mystical way. These combined apostate Christianity with Greek philosophy and Oriental mysticism, holding that that all physical matter is evil and thus reasoning that Jesus did not come in the flesh but only seemed to have a human body - a belief called Docetism.


Another fabrication, concocted centuries later, is the doctrine of the so-called holy Trinity. Dr. Alvan Lamson, in his book The Church of the First Three Centuries states that the doctrine of the Trinity "had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers." Who were these "Platonizing Fathers" ? They were apostate clerics who were infatuated with the teachings of the pagan Greek philosopher Plato (428 ?-347 B.C.E.).


The engrafting of the trinity was a masterstroke of the antichrists, for this doctrine shrouded God in mystery and blurred his relationship with the Son.(John 14:28; 15:10; Col 1:15) How can one draw close to God, if he is a "mystery" ? And adding to the confusion, many Bible translators have taken God's name, Jehovah, out of their translations, even though it occurs over 7,000 times in the Hebrew ("Old Testament") and Christian Greek Scriptures ("New Testament"), making him a nameless God to the masses.


And some religious leaders preach that God's Kingdom is a condition of the heart, a view that finds no valid basis in the Scriptures, for Jesus did not say to the wicked Pharisees that "the kingdom of God is within you", but rather that "the kingdom of God is in your midst."(Luke 17:21) That it is a real government can be seen from Daniel 2:44, that shows that it will "crush" all human governments. Thus, antichrists are everywhere.
 

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Guestman said:
The words of both Jesus and John plainly show that the antichrist is not a single person, but is made up of many individual antichrists. Moreover, because many are "false prophets", one of their main objectives is religious deception.
Yeah, it's very easy to see the falseness you're trying to present.

People like you would even suggest the devil himself is not a 'real' entity!!!

The idea of John's concept of "antichrist" cannot... be separated from the many Bible warnings for the end about the Wicked one coming to Jerusalem to place the "abomination of desolation" idol, and claim himself as God sitting in a temple in Jerusalem. Jesus gave that warning, Apostle Paul gave that specific warning too. And Jesus gave that specific warning again later... through Apostle John in Revelation 13.

Satan himself is the ULTIMATE Antichrist. Why?

Because the word 'aniti-Christ' in the Greek means 'instead of Christ, or in place of Christ'.

Who... first did that specific sin of coveting GOD's Throne?

Satan did that first coveting of GOD's place.

What is that Wicked one Paul mentioned in 2 Thess.2 with coming to sit in a temple to proclaim himself as GOD, and cause all the worship him in place of GOD actually doing? ANSWER: SAME sin the devil did in the beginning!!!

It's deceived people like you that can't even... recall the very first sin which the devil himself did against GOD to cause the very first rebellion!!! Just how... duped can one get???
 

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Yeah, it's very easy to see the falseness you're trying to present.

People like you would even suggest the devil himself is not a 'real' entity!!!

The idea of John's concept of "antichrist" cannot... be separated from the many Bible warnings for the end about the Wicked one coming to Jerusalem to place the "abomination of desolation" idol, and claim himself as God sitting in a temple in Jerusalem. Jesus gave that warning, Apostle Paul gave that specific warning too. And Jesus gave that specific warning again later... through Apostle John in Revelation 13.

Satan himself is the ULTIMATE Antichrist. Why?

Because the word 'aniti-Christ' in the Greek means 'instead of Christ, or in place of Christ'.

Who... first did that specific sin of coveting GOD's Throne?

Satan did that first coveting of GOD's place.

What is that Wicked one Paul mentioned in 2 Thess.2 with coming to sit in a temple to proclaim himself as GOD, and cause all the worship him in place of GOD actually doing? ANSWER: SAME sin the devil did in the beginning!!!

It's deceived people like you that can't even... recall the very first sin which the devil himself did against GOD to cause the very first rebellion!!! Just how... duped can one get???
The apostle John clearly said that "antichrist....went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us."(1 John 2:18, 19) Thus, antichrists developed from within the Christian congregation. These are a product of Satan, a real person, a former spirit "son of God" who initiated the rebellion in the Garden of Eden.(Gen 3:1-6, see also Eze 28:13-15)


Antichrist means "against (or instead) of Christ". Hence, anyone who opposes his Father, Jehovah God and Jesus Christ are antichrists. Anyone who tries to play the part of being Christ are antichrist.

Jesus identified that one of the features that would establish his (invisible) "presence" (Greek parousia) that began in 1914 would be this: "Then if anyone says to you (at the time of the great tribulation), ' Look ! Here is the Christ, or, ' There ! do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. Look ! I have forewarned you. Therefore, if people say, ' Look ! He is in the wilderness, ' do not go out; Look ! He is in the inner chambers, ' do not believe it."(Matt 24:23-26)


Hence, in reality, the vast majority of mankind are in the position of being "antichrist" (and especially Satan and his demon angels). Jesus said that "broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction (those who are unwilling to submit to Jehovah), and many are the ones going in through it, whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it (who submit to Jehovah)."(Matt 7:13, 14)


But, since the apostle John stated that antichrists originated from within the Christian congregation, then religion is the "road" that antichrists use to sway ones away from Jesus Christ and his Father, Jehovah. These falsely try to gain a hold on people by means of "great signs and wonders", even being eloquent speakers that can draw the crowds, such as Jim Jones among others (that resulted in 909 people committing suicide in 1978, as well as the murder of five others at a nearby airstrip).


Many "expel demons......and perform many powerful works" in Jesus name.(Matt 7:22) People are awed by such displays and are often eager to follow this particular person.(see Acts 8:9-11) Thence, antichrists themselves are keen to use religion as their platform.


And the most noted antichrist on the earth is the world wide false religious (symbolic) "harlot" called Babylon the Great.(Rev 17:1, 5) This religious "harlot" has committed both physical and spiritual "fornication" with the "kings of the earth (the political rulers, receiving favors for her support)....whereas those who inhabit the earth (the masses of mankind being either under or impacted by her spiritistic influence) were made drunk with the wine of her fornication."(Rev 17:2) Antichrists are everywhere, but those who are desirous to know the truth will "search for Jehovah....while he may be found."(Isa 55:6)
 

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The apostle John clearly said that "antichrist....went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us."(1 John 2:18, 19) Thus, antichrists developed from within the Christian congregation. These are a product of Satan, a real person, a former spirit "son of God" who initiated the rebellion in the Garden of Eden.(Gen 3:1-6, see also Eze 28:13-15)

Antichrist means "against (or instead) of Christ". Hence, anyone who opposes his Father, Jehovah God and Jesus Christ are antichrists. Anyone who tries to play the part of being Christ are antichrist.

Jesus identified that one of the features that would establish his (invisible) "presence" (Greek parousia) that began in 1914 would be this: "Then if anyone says to you (at the time of the great tribulation), ' Look ! Here is the Christ, or, ' There ! do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. Look ! I have forewarned you. Therefore, if people say, ' Look ! He is in the wilderness, ' do not go out; Look ! He is in the inner chambers, ' do not believe it."(Matt 24:23-26)

Hence, in reality, the vast majority of mankind are in the position of being "antichrist" (and especially Satan and his demon angels). Jesus said that "broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction (those who are unwilling to submit to Jehovah), and many are the ones going in through it, whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it (who submit to Jehovah)."(Matt 7:13, 14)

But, since the apostle John stated that antichrists originated from within the Christian congregation, then religion is the "road" that antichrists use to sway ones away from Jesus Christ and his Father, Jehovah. These falsely try to gain a hold on people by means of "great signs and wonders", even being eloquent speakers that can draw the crowds, such as Jim Jones among others (that resulted in 909 people committing suicide in 1978, as well as the murder of five others at a nearby airstrip).

Many "expel demons......and perform many powerful works" in Jesus name.(Matt 7:22) People are awed by such displays and are often eager to follow this particular person.(see Acts 8:9-11) Thence, antichrists themselves are keen to use religion as their platform.

And the most noted antichrist on the earth is the world wide false religious (symbolic) "harlot" called Babylon the Great.(Rev 17:1, 5) This religious "harlot" has committed both physical and spiritual "fornication" with the "kings of the earth (the political rulers, receiving favors for her support)....whereas those who inhabit the earth (the masses of mankind being either under or impacted by her spiritistic influence) were made drunk with the wine of her fornication."(Rev 17:2) Antichrists are everywhere, but those who are desirous to know the truth will "search for Jehovah....while he may be found."(Isa 55:6)
All you're doing is just regurgitating the doctrines of men you've been taught on John's usage of the idea of 'antichrist'. Those doctrines of men try... to separate John's antichrist from the false one that both our Lord Jesus and Apostle Paul also warned about. So here it is again what John actually said... while actually HEEDING the grammar of the verse...


I Jn 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
(KJV)

The word "antichrist" in the 1st phrase is singular per that. It is plural in the latter phrase.

What men's doctrines have wrongly taught you to do is to OMIT that first singular phrase meaning by John.

In Christ's Olivet Discourse of Matt.24, He covered 2 ideas about false Christs. The 1st one is in Matt.24:4-5 about many coming in His Name saying they are Christ. But in Matt.24:23-26 He was speaking of a singular antichrist coming to work great signs and wonders on earth that would deceive even His own elect, if it were possible, and that many will be saying, "...here is Christ, or there..." (Matt.24:23).

Apostle Paul made the same two distinctions in 2 Cor.11 when he made comparison about the "another Jesus" with Satan disguised as an angel of light, and his ministers as the ministers of righteousness. So even there also is the distinction between a singular Antichrst figure, and also the many little antichrists, i.e., his followers that serve him.

In 2 Thess.2, Apostle Paul mentioned the "mystery of iniquity", which is about the many little antichrists that serve the Antichrist (the devil, which Paul called "that Wicked", the KJV translators even capitalizing "Wicked" as a proper name to know it's not just about any man, but a specific man).


Question: Just WHY... would the doctrines of men which created the 'no singular antichrist lie' be pushing such a falsehood in the last days against The Scriptures?

Simple; it's because those are not servants of Christ Jesus that began that lie. Those are the devil's own servants that began that lie, simply because they do NOT... want Christ's Body of believers to RECOGNIZE Christ's warnings about the coming of Satan himself to this earth as that singular Antichrist, to sit in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself as God, working lying signs and wonders to try and fool even Christ's elect.