reformed1689
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Yeah, there is nothing in the Bible about "Mother church" That's manmade heresy.
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we do
But we also honor those who God honors
John 12:26
If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.
Also rom 13:7
Also James 5:16
Rev 5:8
Honor reverence and devotion to the saints is terminated in God and gives glory to God for He is the source of their grace and merits
2 Thessalonians 1:10
When he shall come to be glorified in hissaints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
and their Godly lives are an example to us
The holy family is an example to all families
St. Joseph of a just and godly father
Mary the best of mother’s etc.
gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
holy mother church
All so called churches are nothing more than sects with false doctrine all by the tradition of men
only Christ has authority to found the church Matt 16:18-19
Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!
Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14
Dan 2:44 Isa 2:2 Micah 4:1 fulfilled in matt 5:14
matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail
Matt 18:17 hear the truth from the church
1 Tim 3:15 the church is the pillar and ground of truth.
only Christ has authority to found the church Matt 16:18-19
Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!
Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14
Dan 2:44 Isa 2:2 Micah 4:1 fulfilled in matt 5:14
matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail
Matt 18:17 hear the truth from the church
1 Tim 3:15 the church is the pillar and ground of truth.
Christians don’t have authority to read the Bible and make doctrine for yourself
True Christians do not act from
Pride, presumption, and arrogance!
Private judgement!
Personal interpretation!
I decide truth for myself!
amigo de christo
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Even the angel told JOHN to get up , WORSHIP GOD . Thee faith is lost in his love for his religion .
WE need to LOVE every word of the LORD .
We can come boldly to the throne of Grace, and Christ is our mediator.
Heb 4:16 "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.1 Timothy 2:5 Not mary-not the saints.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 14:6
We are told Jesus is our Mediator--nobody else. We can go to Him directly.
And if you really think you should pray to the saints, you need to get on the stick here:
In less that a minute you can pray 1000 souls out of purgatory! You can probably knock a few thousand years off of your time, too.
Heb 4:16 "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.1 Timothy 2:5 Not mary-not the saints.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 14:6
We are told Jesus is our Mediator--nobody else. We can go to Him directly.
And if you really think you should pray to the saints, you need to get on the stick here:
In less that a minute you can pray 1000 souls out of purgatory! You can probably knock a few thousand years off of your time, too.
Religion is revealed by God it is the new covenant
Also religion is what man owes to His creator and redeemer
Also religion is what man owes to His creator and redeemer
amigo de christo
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You pray to them , you pray to saints , to arch angels . THAT IS WORSHIP . THAT IS WORSHIP . That is WORSHIP .
Go read samuel and saul . yall need to cease all prayer to any saint , to mary , to angels . PRAY TO GOD .
amigo de christo
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Oh i am sure you do pray it and that you do pray , the problem is WHO YOU ARE PRAYING TOO .
Start praying ONLY TO GOD , in the glorious and wonderous name OF JESUS CHRIST .
AND since we are on the this topic .
YOu can no more pray a soul out of damantion
than you could pray a soul into hell fire .
ONCE THEY are gone , ITS TOO LATE . THEY will face
whatever judgement they reaped upon themselves on the day of the LORD
SO here is an idea , though pope francis wont agree ,
GET THE GOSPEL OUT TO THE LIVING . PRAY for the LIVING .
PRAY for the living while there is still time to do so
AND GET OUT AND PROLEYSTIZE the gospel .
OH wait , POPE francis said christains like me are dangerous
and are not even real christains
cause we prolesitze the gospel . HE IS THE FALSE ONE
JESUS TOLD US TO WITNESS THE GOSPLE TO ALL . FRANCIS
and his cronies say othewise . YEAH HEED NOT A WORD THEY SAY .
PS , they aint alone , many a sold out protestant church
like emergents and so forth are saying the same line .
THEY ALL SOLD OUT . AND I aint buying their lies .
amigo de christo
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It dont matter what the pope or the sold out protestant leaders say , WE HEED JESUS . TO THE END . FINAL . TRUTH FOREVER .
They once called luther the wild boar , not that i follow luther , i say that cause i imagine they gonna have plenty a name for me .
I aint conforming to this pile of junk lies they speak . And its gonna cost me greatly . OH BUT THE PRIZE AT THE END AWAITS THE LAMBS .
TIS all gain no matter what i lose in this life . THE GAIN OF KNOWING JESUS , the HOPE OF HIS SALVATION .
Now let all that draws breath praise the LORD an stop trusting in men and start learning those bibles .
They once called luther the wild boar , not that i follow luther , i say that cause i imagine they gonna have plenty a name for me .
I aint conforming to this pile of junk lies they speak . And its gonna cost me greatly . OH BUT THE PRIZE AT THE END AWAITS THE LAMBS .
TIS all gain no matter what i lose in this life . THE GAIN OF KNOWING JESUS , the HOPE OF HIS SALVATION .
Now let all that draws breath praise the LORD an stop trusting in men and start learning those bibles .
Prayer is not worship
worship
Adoration
reparation
Propitiatory sacrifice
prayer reverence devotion are not worship!!!
and a fundamentalist believer is NOT a Christian!
Spiritual Anarchy!
Christ and His church are one!
God cannot reveal error and the church cannot teach error!
True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics like luther, calvin, etc. but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23
True Christians do not act from
Pride, presumption, and arrogance!
Private judgement!
Personal interpretation!
I decide truth for myself!
These are NOT Christian virtues!
This is NOT faith!
1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
This extends to the truth and to the church founded by Christ to teach all
men!
Cos Jesus Christ is the truth and cos His church is of divine origin, commissioned to teach the truth!
Christians must be taught and that requires humility! Lk 1:4 matt 28:19-20 matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 acts 2:42 acts 8:31
Virtues are not natural, but supernatural helps from God!
The virtues are exercised to the highest degree in Mary most holy and to perfection in Jesus Christ!
The doctrine of demons are filled with the vices of the demons!
Humility and obedience are the virtues most forgotten and ignored, many who claim the name of Christ are not practicing His virtues
The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church!
The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15
Truth is revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles) Jude 1:3 then proposed by the church! Matt 28:19
Christ and His church are one!
Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!
Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14
Dan 2:44 Isa 2:2 Micah 4:1 fulfilled in matt 5:14
matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail
Matt 18:17 hear the truth from the church
1 Tim 3:15 the church is the pillar and ground of truth.
Faith ascents & never protests or rebels!
Spiritual Pride protests & is always in rebellion
The nature of spiritual pride is rebellion!
Spiritual pride must protest, and must be right!
Christ and His one true church cannot be right or my self-righteous personal interpretation base on spiritual pride and private judgement must be wrong, and that is unacceptable!
Truth must be revealed by God, and taught by the church, proposed for our belief, we must be instructed!
Matt 28:19 Lk 1:4 Acts 8:31 Lk 10:16 Jn 21:17 Jn 16:13 acts 2:42
Nature of doctrine:
Truth or doctrine MUST be Revealed by God And Proposed by the church for belief, not spiritual pride and self-righteous private judgement!
Claim: “scripture alone”
It’s really just the ugly repugnant pride!
It’s no faith at all only spiritual pride and self-righteous private judgement!
They Hope in creatures not in God!
It is unlawful to refuse to accept a truth revealed by God!
Matt 28:19 eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
Truth matters! It is revealed by God and therefore CANNOT be changed!
The church likewise is founded by Christ and therefore CANNOT be reformed!
Faith hope and charity! 1 cor 13:13
Three are eternal, and the greatest is charity!
“Faith alone”? Never faith, hope, & charity are inseparable!
If salvation was by faith alone then the greatest would be faith, but as even “all faith“ without charity avails nothing! 1 cor 13:2
amigo de christo
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same line all catholics stick too . And i dont buy it .
Your leaders duped ya . Big time . PRAYER IS WORSHIP .
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