Antichrist theories

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Theories

 

[LoveYeshua]

Trump sparks outrage for suggesting Iran could take out US cities​

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[Douggg]

Someone told me the AntiChrist is a Shiite Iranian. He told me it's the Mahdi. He showed me proof in Bible and in Hadiths. He told me that in 2027 it will start. I asked him what is going to start in 2027. He told me the end will start. He told me Iran plans to nuke the USA.

No, the Antichrist has to be a Jew who's religion is Judaism. He will be the Jews (of Judaism) expected King of Israel messiah.

Islam will basically end when the Gog/Magog event of Ezekiel 38-39 takes place.

 

[TLHKAJ]

No, the Antichrist has to be a Jew who's religion is Judaism. He will be the Jews (of Judaism) expected King of Israel messiah.

Islam will basically end when the Gog/Magog event of Ezekiel 38-39 takes place.

He doesn't necessarily have to be a Jew, but it is more likely he will either be "jewish" (of the synagogue of satan brand) or someone who is very pro-Israel. Israel has already named Trump as a messiah, prince of Peace, and king of Jerusalem. Trump comes in his own name ...and Israel has received him.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Trump sparks outrage for suggesting Iran could take out US cities​

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I'm glad someone else is seeing this. I just posted about it as well. I guess no matter who lives in San Diego or Los Angeles, or whatever other big city ...are expendable in Trump's eyes. I'd say that everyone is expendable in Trump's eyes. We have Trump loyalists on this forum who live in and around those cities. Something to consider. We shouldn't be surprised if the US military is ordered to attack it's own cities and blame it on Iran. Trump has recently stated that he will mobilize the military against US citizens if he deems it necessary.

 

[Wrangler]

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Why are they outraged?

 

[ewq1938]

Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

This is a copy of Christs return on a white horse, with a crown.


Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

What is found in Rev 6:2 is not an exact copy of the real second coming seen above, but close enough to trick people into thinking he is christ. Too many parallels to deny what satan is trying to do and who he means to impersonate.


1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

anti can mean "instead of" or an "impersonator of"

In Revelation the term antichrist or even false christ is not used, but the term false prophet is used.

5578

5578 pseudoprophetes {psyoo-dop-rof-ay'-tace}

from 5571 and 4396; TDNT - 6:781,952; n m

AV - false prophet 11; 11

1) one who, acting the part of a divinely inspired prophet, utters
falsehoods under the name of divine prophecies
2) a false prophet


This is because Christ was a prophet, so satan will impersonate Christ as a false prophet, a false lamb, a false king, a false god...and on and on...all these things are done through the role of AC.



Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.


Since Christ is known as the Lamb of God, for this beast to also be described in lamb-esque terms mirrors Christ.




Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


Many types will come saying they are Christ, so too will the fulfillment of the types, the false prophet beast himself.



Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;


"I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north"

This is a reference to Gods throne.

"I will be like the most High"

I believe Lucifer is satan and that the antichrist is either satan in disguise, or a person satan possesses.


2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

"shewing himself that he is God"

Christ is God, so to impersonate Christ in the tribulation is to show yourself as "God"

 

[ewq1938]

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!



01966 heylel {hay-lale'}

from 01984 (in the sense of brightness); TWOT - 499a; n m

AV - Lucifer 1; 1

Lucifer = "light-bearer"
1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer
1a) of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.)
2) (TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon


satan used to be the "son of the morning" which is the "morning star"...now Christ has taken that title from him:

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


"the bright and morning star"




1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

take note that he says antichrist singular shall come, denoting the end times...but that as a type there are antichrists even at that time...but until they see the AC it isnt the end times yet.

what he is saying is this, "the AC shall come, and thats how we will know its the end times" and then as a side comment he mentions that there are many types of the AC already but only the appearance of the one true AC denotes the end part of the endtimes.




John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist
shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the
last time.

antichrist
500

500 antichristos {an-tee'-khris-tos}

from 473 and 5547; TDNT - 9:493,1322; n m

AV - antichrist 5; 5

1) the adversary of the Messiah


anti
473

473 anti {an-tee'}

a primary particle; TDNT - 1:372,61; prep

AV - for 15, because + 3639 4, for ... cause 1, therefore + 3639 1,
in the room of 1; 22

1) over against, opposite to, before
2) for, instead of, in place of (something)
2a) instead of
2b) for
2c) for that, because
2d) wherefore, for this cause

Clearly, the word can mean both....and surely by impersonating/taking the place of
Christ would therefore make this person an adversary of Christ at the same time.

As we learned from Daniel and Paul, by claiming to be God/Christ satan will in fact
be not only exalting himself ABOVE God but will also be opposing the true God.

Matthew 2:22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea IN THE
ROOM OF his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being
warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee:

Note that the "in the room of" is the word "anti" in the greek, and from sentence
context we know that Archelaus actually was not herods adversary, but that he was ruling
in his place, "instead of" his father.

The antichrist will do no differently except he takes the throne improperly and will
only rule for that hour and then be cast into the pit for his crimes, and eventually
be destroyed.


1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Here we have "like figure" which is anti-tupos in the Greek. This anti is the same word in Antichrist yet in this verse the anti-tupos means a "like" or similar thing.






2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called
God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.

Christ is God, so to sit in the temple and claim to be God is the same difference as
saying one is Christ.

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he
had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

It's no coincidence that the antichrist appears as a lamb, which is symbolism for
Christ. Satan is the false lamb, the false Christ, the anti/in stead of copy cat.


Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a
bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to
conquer.



Here is another account of his appearance, again copying Christ. I surely hope no
one thinks this is actually the true Christ returning. If so, you can check out the
word "bow" here and learn its a poor imitation of the real thing.



5115
toxon
tox'-on
From the base of G5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): - bow.



Christ’s return as the true lamb is spoken of in the 6th seal making this first seal
someone other than Christ.

so clearly, this Ac does indeed copy Christ and wish to take his place and he
always has.




1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.



This passage makes it clear that whosoever denies that Jesus is the Christ is antichrist.



As well as outright denying, there is the lack of confessing which is also the spirit of Antichrist:




1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.






2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.



And more of the same.



Do not think the only way to be an Antichrist is to deny or not confess Christ. There are other definitions such as imitating Christ which is also being an or The Antichrist which is essentially equal to deny Christ because you are wanting or claiming to be Christ so that is to deny the true Christ.

 

[Douggg]

This is because Christ was a prophet, so satan will impersonate Christ as a false prophet, a false lamb, a false king, a false god...and on and on...all these things are done through the role of AC.

No, Satan will not be the false prophet.

When Jesus returns, the false prophet and the beast will be cast into the lake of fire, Revelation 19:20.

Differently, Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit, Revelation 20:1-3.

 

[David Lamb]

Someone told me the AntiChrist is a Shiite Iranian. He told me it's the Mahdi. He showed me proof in Bible and in Hadiths. He told me that in 2027 it will start. I asked him what is going to start in 2027. He told me the end will start. He told me Iran plans to nuke the USA.

"Antichrist" is mentioned in just four verses in the Bible:

NKJV 1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

1Jn 4:3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, people who do not confess Jesus as Christ coming in the flesh. This person is the deceiver and the antichrist!

Not one of those verses specifies what particular nationality or religion the Antichrist will be. We are told in those verses that Antichrist denies that Jesus is the Christ, denies the Father and the Son, denies that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, and was already in the world when John wrote his first letter

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Trump sparks outrage for suggesting Iran could take out US cities​

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More media lies.

So, Trump was in general talking about why he had to take out a nuclear Iran's abilities. He is then saying it was a needed path and in some many words he's saying in so many words, what are we supposed to do, just say, here's LA & San Diego, take 'em out.

Anyone that listens to the media are going to become braindead and deceived by lies from Satan.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Someone told me the AntiChrist is a Shiite Iranian. He told me it's the Mahdi. He showed me proof in Bible and in Hadiths. He told me that in 2027 it will start. I asked him what is going to start in 2027. He told me the end will start. He told me Iran plans to nuke the USA.

The Anti-Christ is a general term/name we use to cover his 33 names, its easier that way. In one spot he is called THAT Anti-Christ, so instead of saying Man of Sin, Little Horn, the Assyrian et al., we call him the Anti-Christ in a general way.

We are specifically told where he must be born in Dan. 8:9. We are specifically told where he arises to power from in Dan. 7:7-8. We are told his lineage as per his heritage, most Americans would have a heritage from England, France or some place in Europe. Africa etc. etc. So, just because we are American doesn't mean God could not see us as Irish in His prophetic lingo. Likewise this man will be an Assyrian, which was old Assyria (Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey mostly). We are told this in a few places. Isaiah 10 being the main passage. So, God gives us the answer, then we have people who refuse to listen and come up with their own modern theories led by modern men's thinking. (Men's Traditions).

Dan. 8:9 And out of one of them(The FOUR) came forth a little horn(same as Dan. 7, a SMALL Beast so to speak, a MAN not a NATION POWER), which waxed exceeding great(KEY, KEY), toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land(Israel).

So, do you guys understand this? We were given 6 Syrian Wars before they were ever fought in Dan. 11. Then in Dan. 11:40-43 we are shown the 7 Syrian War, meaning it has to be in the SAME AREA, between Cassander (Greece) Seleucus (modern day Turkey) and Ptolemy (Egypt). Now go read those 4 simple verses and you can see the Anti-Christs conquering's, in full, he never conquers the whole world, that is just fantasy. BUT.........look at the DIRECTION he conquers TOWARDS. it gives it all away.

He conquers TOWARDS the East and TOWARDS the south. meaning he can only conquer FROM Greece or Cassander. Now put Dan. 7:7-8 with that, he arises amongst the 10 (the number 10 = Completion) that arise out of the Old Fourth Beasts Territory. The European Union is those 10 (Completion) and thus the AC has to be born AFTER the 10 (E.U.) forms in 1957 via the Council of Rome. When the E.U. was 8, or 14, or 19 or 27 the number 10 still represented them, it just means Rome was back via Europe. So, where is Greece located? In the European Union. BOOM. Only Greece fits, this man must be born in Greece to fulfill Dan. 8:9 and he must come to power in the E.U. to fulfill Dan. 7:7-8. The AC will attack from Europe and the man will have been born in Greece. And lastly. he has to have family ties to the 700 BC kingdom of Assyria. Well, Turkey and Greece have a common border, so sometime in the last 2500 or so years, ths man's family migrated to Greece from Turkey.

Yet the guesses says hes a Muslim or Jews......SMH

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Someone told me the AntiChrist is a Shiite Iranian. He told me it's the Mahdi. He showed me proof in Bible and in Hadiths. He told me that in 2027 it will start. I asked him what is going to start in 2027. He told me the end will start. He told me Iran plans to nuke the USA.

Islam/Quran, deny Jesus is the Son of God, Lord, The Truth, The Way, The Life, that His sacrifice cleanses us from sin, that faith in HIM leads to eternal life. So they are all antichrists in that respect. The Shiite Muslims are waiting for the 12th Imam/Madhi.
Scripture says ten nations will go against Jerusalem /Israel and that the final Antichrist will gather them. What do we see now? Just that, many Islamic nations warring against Israel. Yes, he is alive and working, but not yet empowered by Satan, not yet revealed _ until _ the Restrainer is taken out of the way. IF THE Holy Spirit (Who has restrained evil since the FALL OF MAN), is taken out of the way, what does that mean? We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit; so that must mean the Church is raptured at that time - then all hell breaks loose. Evil will be unrestrained. Iran does not need to make their own nukes when Russia or Pakistan will give them some. We have anti- ballistic missiles that can take out a supersonic missile, but all they need are mini- nukes that can pass into our ports undetected - without the delivery missile. Unrestrained evil will certainly ignite a nuclear war. Russia, China and all nations equipped with nukes will start pressing buttons. N.Korea would probably hit south Korea. Pakistan and India would go at eachother and Russia and China would likely attack us.
Maybe the Antichrist is Ayatollah's son? Putin is an anticrist and so is Xi Jingping ... so we'll see. ???
Trump knows that if LA was hit or NYC, economic collapse would follow. And he would (being president still since I doubt he is born again) send ten nukes back at whoever is responsible. 2027 seems like it could be spot on for the beginning of the 1260+ day reign of the Antichrist. Add 1260 days to Oct. 7, 2023 and we come to Palm Sunday. I do believe we are in that period called "The Beginning of Sorrows" in Matthew 24.
Biblical history and future prophecies surround Jerusalem. All the empires either warred against her and/or enslaved her and so the final one, the 8th empire is likely the 7th (Ottoman), that died in 1921 but now has been resuscitated back to life in our generation. They have infiltrated many nations and so an internarional Jihad would also happen.

 

[Douggg]

The person goes through 5 stages. Being the Antichrist is one of the stages. As the Antichrist, he will be anointed the King of Israel, thought to be messiah. In order to qualify for that role, he must be a Jew and his religion Judaism.

 

[LoveYeshua]

More media lies.

So, Trump was in general talking about why he had to take out a nuclear Iran's abilities. He is then saying it was a needed path and in some many words he's saying in so many words, what are we supposed to do, just say, here's LA & San Diego, take 'em out.

Anyone that listens to the media are going to become braindead and deceived by lies from Satan.

so you think the video is false? it is also in many other news outlets, they are all wrong?

 

[TLHKAJ]

More media lies.

So, Trump was in general talking about why he had to take out a nuclear Iran's abilities. He is then saying it was a needed path and in some many words he's saying in so many words, what are we supposed to do, just say, here's LA & San Diego, take 'em out.

Anyone that listens to the media are going to become braindead and deceived by lies from Satan.

This is something I'm seeing more and more. When evidential truth is placed in front of their eyes, Trump supporters manufacture a totally false reality that protects their guy.

so you think the video is false? it is also in many other news outlets, they are all wrong?

It can be seen and heard with our own ears. They refuse to see and hear.

@LoveYeshua this is a phenomenon we're seeing that is a direct result of a people who love not the truth. Since they don't love the truth and cast it aside, God has sent a strong delusion that they will believe a lie.

 

[LoveYeshua]

This is something I'm seeing more and more. When evidential truth is placed in front of their eyes, Trump supporters manufacture a totally false reality that protects their guy.

It can be seen and heard with our own ears. They refuse to see and hear.

@LoveYeshua this is a phenomenon we're seeing that is a direct result of a people who love not the truth. Since they don't love the truth and cast it aside, God has sent a strong delusion that they will believe a lie.

I agree with what you say completely but I still dont understand why they cannot see the truth

 

[David1701]

Anti-Christ means "instead of" or "in place of" Christ (as well as "against Christ"). He sits in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

In the N.T., unless stated otherwise, the temple of the God is the professing church. So, the anti-Christ sits in the professing church, proclaiming himself to be God. There is one person who does this - whoever happens to be in the office of "pope", at the time. One of his titles of blasphemy is "Vicar of Christ", which means "In Place of Christ" (i.e. Anti-Christ). He is hiding in plain sight, and has been for a very long time.

The "pope" rose to power after the fall of the Roman Empire, which fits in with Daniel's "little horn".

He conquered three of the ten kingdoms that arose from the break-up of the Western Roman Empire.

He has numerous titles of blasphemy (Holy Father, Vicar of Christ, Rector Orbis, King of Kings, Lord of lords and Pontifex Maximus).

He has changed times and seasons: he changed days from sunset to sunset, to midnight to midnight; he changed the calendar; he switched from Passover to the pagan festival of Easter, etc..

He has introduced (and mandated) a huge number of anti-Christian false teachings: transubstantiation (worshipping and eating one's "god", in the form of a sun-shaped wafer, turned into that "god", a la Mithraism); veneration of relics; praying to "saints"; a mediatorial priesthood; many pagan festival days renamed into "holy days"; Mary as "Queen of Heaven" (the title of a pagan goddess, from the O.T.); Mary as "mediatrix"; Mary as "co-redemptrix"; supererogation; purgatory, etc, etc..

World leaders bow down before him and kiss his ring or his foot.

His organisation (Roman Catholicism) has its headquarters in Rome (the city on seven hills).

His organisation is drunk with the blood of the saints, having tortured and murdered many millions, through the centuries.

He proclaims that he is the head over all Christians, not only that he claims to represent Christ on earth, but he claims to be Christ on earth.

He has called for a one world government; and for the world's religions to come together (e.g. a Muslim prayer room has been opened, in the Vatican).

A woman holding out a cup to the nations (mentioned in Revelation) is an official symbol of his organisation (Roman Catholicism).

etc., etc..

The Bible speaks of anti-Christs (a general term for people who are against Christ, especially those who deny certain essential doctrines); but, there is one The Anti-Christ - the office of "pope".

 

[Douggg]

Anti-Christ means "instead of" or "in place of" Christ (as well as "against Christ"). He sits in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Hi David1701,

The prefix "Anti" is as you pointed out.

Let's look at concept of Christ. Mark 15:32.

Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

The person who becomes the Antichrist will become the King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah - instead of and against the rightful King of Israel - Jesus.

Being the Antichrist is one of 5 stages the person will go through.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I agree with what you say completely but I still dont understand why they cannot see the truth

Because when we reject truth over and over and embrace lies, embrace evil ....God honors our choice and allows strong delusion so that those people will fully believe a lie and (as scripture says) be damned.