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theefaith

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Hebrews 9:28

28 so Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, """to them that wait for him""", unto salvation. =====Those not looking for Jesus will be left behind.

why does Paul say Christians are left behind??
 

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why does Paul say Christians are left behind??
Hebrews 9:28 says== Jesus will appear to them that are ""waiting for Him""----so those that reject His return will not see Him.
Hebrews 9:28

28 so Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, """to them that wait for him""", unto salvation. =====Those not looking for Jesus will be left behind.====Think!!
 

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they all are there!

but the Bible is not a list of doctrines or a catechism
My mom is there but as Jesus Himself said, "These are all my mothers and brothers ..." not showing favoritism to his biological mother or brothers, but distinguishing believers as his beloved family.
 

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Hebrews 9:28 says== Jesus will appear to them that are ""waiting for Him""----so those that reject His return will not see Him.
Hebrews 9:28

28 so Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, """to them that wait for him""", unto salvation. =====Those not looking for Jesus will be left behind.====Think!!

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. ...

we “Christians” remain or are left behind!

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

1) after the tribulation
2) all men shall see him
3) the elect are gathered not raptured
 

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My mom is there but as Jesus Himself said, "These are all my mothers and brothers ..." not showing favoritism to his biological mother or brothers, but distinguishing believers as his beloved family.

biological brothers ain’t biblical!

he is an only child!
 

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1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. ...

we “Christians” remain or are left behind!

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

1) after the tribulation
2) all men shall see him
3) the elect are gathered not raptured

The rapture (catching up) is not the same event as the Jesus's return to earth.
 

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how do you know the HS is the restrainer?
God has restrained evil since the fall . He allows it for His purpose. When the Restrainer is taken out of the way, the Antichrist is revealed and allowed to reign for 3 1/2 years, evil breaks loose (unrestrained) and darkness covers the earth like in the days of Noah.
 

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Here’s what’s going to happen:

1. Antichrist revealed.
2. Mark of beast executions.
3. Christ comes.
4. Christ “raptures” the executed and surviving saints in the tribulation (all other saints will remain sleeping in Jesus).
5. Christ defeats the beast and false prophet.
6. Satan is bound 1,000 years.
7. Christ reigns 1,000 years on earth with the “raptured” saints.
8. Satan is loosed after 1,000 years.
9. Satan is cast into lake of fire.
10. All the sleeping dead are raised and stand before the great white throne. Those not found written in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire.
11. Those found written in the book of life will enter into “paradise” the new Jerusalem which comes down from heaven.

The end.
 
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The rapture (catching up) is not the same event as the Jesus's return to earth.

then it don’t exist!
The church never taught it, it is a fabrication and novelty of the 1800’s “burned over district”!!!
 

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God has restrained evil since the fall . He allows it for His purpose. When the Restrainer is taken out of the way, the Antichrist is revealed and allowed to reign for 3 1/2 years, evil breaks loose (unrestrained) and darkness covers the earth like in the days of Noah.

I think it’s the teaching authority of Christ in his church
 

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No worries!! those not looking for the rapture will be left behind!!



No matter how many pre tribe rapture threads you post nor how many times you say it, this is NOT biblical. You have been taught error about this event, how many of the other things you believe are wrong ?

Get in the word under the illuminating teacher, the Holy Ghost. We do NOT know which areas in our life have sin unless revealed by God's Spirit. It is not to late to check out the TRUTH !
 

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No matter how many pre tribe rapture threads you post nor how many times you say it, this is NOT biblical. You have been taught error about this event, how many of the other things you believe are wrong ?

Get in the word under the illuminating teacher, the Holy Ghost. We do NOT know which areas in our life have sin unless revealed by God's Spirit. It is not to late to check out the TRUTH !


I posted chapter and verse and believe it!!And you???
The CATCHING UP IS the rapture!!!
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will """"be caught up"""" together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.…
 

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I posted chapter and verse and believe it!!And you???
The CATCHING UP IS the rapture!!!
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will """"be caught up"""" together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.…




YOU ARE CHOOSING TO BE BLIND. Your anger won't make it any truer.
I hope you have more to contribute than just your opinion on this false interpertation.
You have been given scripture and refused it, why should I say the same as the others ?
 

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Those that deny the truth of God's eternal living Word are far beyond my help!!

I posted chapter and verse and believe it!!And you???
The CATCHING UP IS the rapture!!!
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will """"be caught up"""" together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.…
 

theefaith

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I posted chapter and verse and believe it!!And you???
The CATCHING UP IS the rapture!!!
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will """"be caught up"""" together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.…

that’s the last trump and the second coming and the end of the world same as Matt 24:
After the trib!

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 

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op: those "NOT looking" WILL be left behind?

No, UNbelievers will be, but ALL "members of The Body Of Christ," Will Go -
ALL the "faithful AND Unfaithful" members Must stand In Judgment to
"receive OR LOSE rewards," and Then ALL Be Presented To Christ, and
To The Father, holy, perfect, And UNblameable. Thanks To HIS BLOOD!
Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified!!:

Part I

God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:

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LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding
In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our Comfort And Consolation.
Amen. (1 Thessalonians 4:18)

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Time Of JACOB’s {Israel's} Trouble (TOJT), Ending With The
Second Coming
, is found in God's Context:

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom
(“ages” past/future) (Genesis-John; Hebrews-Revelation)

God’s “Earthly Kingdom” Purpose From “the foundation of the world”
(Matthew 25:34)

God's Purpose Prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:

Great GRACE Departure!

Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST,
Ending God’s Age Of GRACE,
Is Found In God's Other Context:

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God
{ Current = “But NOW!” } (Romans through Philemon!)

God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose Before “the foundation of the world”
(Ephesians 1:4; 2 Timothy 1:9!)

God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret “since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9!)

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The Second Coming, According to Prophecy:

(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His
Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords,
Is Coming From Heaven! (Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11!)

(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On
His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! (Revelation 19:12-15)

(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!),
His armies * on white horses! (Revelation 19:12-15)

(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army *, “All Of His holy angels,”
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations…
(Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)

(5) With Another trumpet (AFTER "the 7th angel trumpet” in heaven), on
the earth, Angels Are SENT, By The KING, TO: “gather the elect”...
(Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27!)

(6)...for the “judgment of the Earthly Nations” By The Son of man, The King!
(Matthew 25:31-46!)

(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous
then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels!
(Matthew 25:34-46!)

To be continued...