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OK, here is how I believe it. First off lets look at a specific verse that will add meaning to this. This obiously is a whole study and covers many verses, but I will just give one of them and we can look at that.Genesis 1:28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.The word "replenish" means to "refill". If there was never life on the earth before he would just tell him to "fill" the earth, not "refill". We also see that God told Noah the same exact thing after he destroyed the earth with water, and Noah's family was all that was left.Genesis 9:1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.Here you see him giving the same command to Noah. He wants him to "refill" the earth since he destroyed the life on it originally.Here is what I believe, and this comes from much study by others who I have learned under, and from looking myself. I believe that there was an earth before this one, and it was inhabited by the angels and lucifer. It speaks of trafficking done by lucifer in Isaiah between the cities. Once lucifer fell, God destoyed this earth, and left it in darkness, without form and void of any life. When God created the earth as we know it now, he renewed it, and we see this in Genesis chapter 1. If you want some more verses on these thoughts then I can look for them. It will take me a little time though because its has been a while.
I minor disagree with you. I just believe God never destroy Earth, just only the Earth Age. Anyway you do realize that we also existed back in the "First Earth" (Your case) the first " Earth Age" (my case) right?
 

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I minor disagree with you. I just believe God never destroy Earth, just only the Earth Age. Anyway you do realize that we also existed back in the "First Earth" (Your case) the first " Earth Age" (my case) right?
OK, well if God never destroyed it, then why did he have to re-create all the life on it in Genesis 1? Why did he create trees, animals, oceans, clouds, people, ect...? If it wasn't destroyed then he would not have to create it.So Jordan, you think me and you were in the first earth? You mean like re-incarnation? Where do you find that in the Bible?
 

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I minor disagree with you. I just believe God never destroy Earth, just only the Earth Age. Anyway you do realize that we also existed back in the "First Earth" (Your case) the first " Earth Age" (my case) right?
OK, well if God never destroyed it, then why did he have to re-create all the life on it in Genesis 1? Why did he create trees, animals, oceans, clouds, people, ect...? If it wasn't destroyed then he would not have to create it.So Jordan, you think me and you were in the first earth? You mean like re-incarnation? Where do you find that in the Bible?Because they are no humans back in the First Earth Age. Our original body is not flesh, it is our spiritual body. This Earth Age we are in now, in which we are human, (Second Earth Age) is in ruin state compare back to the First Earth Age.And this Earth Age starts at Genesis 1:3.
 

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Because they are no humans back in the First Earth Age. Our original body is not flesh, it is our spiritual body. This Earth Age we are in now, in which we are human, (Second Earth Age) is in ruin state compare back to the First Earth Age.And this Earth Age starts at Genesis 1:3.
OK, first off let me say I agree with you on several points here. First off, yes I believe that there were no humans back on the orginal earth. Secondly, I do believe that the creation of this world started in Genesis 1:3. However, what I am saying is, he destroyed the face of the earth after the first earth. That is why he had to recreate all the life(birds, trees, beasts, oceans, ect...) on it.However, I do not see anything in the Bible that suggests we were in the first earth as spritual beings. I would like to see the verses that you get that from?
 

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OK, here is how I believe it. First off lets look at a specific verse that will add meaning to this. This obiously is a whole study and covers many verses, but I will just give one of them and we can look at that.Genesis 1:28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.The word "replenish" means to "refill". If there was never life on the earth before he would just tell him to "fill" the earth, not "refill". We also see that God told Noah the same exact thing after he destroyed the earth with water, and Noah's family was all that was left.Genesis 9:1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.Here you see him giving the same command to Noah. He wants him to "refill" the earth since he destroyed the life on it originally.Here is what I believe, and this comes from much study by others who I have learned under, and from looking myself. I believe that there was an earth before this one, and it was inhabited by the angels and lucifer. It speaks of trafficking done by lucifer in Isaiah between the cities. Once lucifer fell, God destoyed this earth, and left it in darkness, without form and void of any life. When God created the earth as we know it now, he renewed it, and we see this in Genesis chapter 1. If you want some more verses on these thoughts then I can look for them. It will take me a little time though because its has been a while.
You are absoultly right its wonderful to see someone come here with eyes to see and ears to ear the truth of Gods as he wrote it not as men tell itGod Bless
 

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Because they are no humans back in the First Earth Age. Our original body is not flesh, it is our spiritual body. This Earth Age we are in now, in which we are human, (Second Earth Age) is in ruin state compare back to the First Earth Age.And this Earth Age starts at Genesis 1:3.
OK, first off let me say I agree with you on several points here. First off, yes I believe that there were no humans back on the orginal earth. Secondly, I do believe that the creation of this world started in Genesis 1:3. However, what I am saying is, he destroyed the face of the earth after the first earth. That is why he had to recreate all the life(birds, trees, beasts, oceans, ect...) on it.However, I do not see anything in the Bible that suggests we were in the first earth as spritual beings. I would like to see the verses that you get that from?Take this for example.Jeremiah 1:5 - Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.And we have here of Christ words...John 17:24 - Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
 

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God made the Earth Void without form the Earth didnt disappear but it had no form it nor did the heavens I think you two (Jordan, SoldierforChrist) are saying the same thing just misunderstanding each other
 

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God made the Earth Void without form the Earth didnt disappear but it had no form it nor did the heavens I think you two (Jordan, SoldierforChrist) are saying the same thing just misunderstanding each other
XD I understood him... I just wonder if he understood me though.
 

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Take this for example.Jeremiah 1:5 - Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.And we have here of Christ words...John 17:24 - Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Jordan, this is simply stating that God is Omnipresent. He is in the past, the present, and the future. He knew you and I would be having this conversation before either one of us were born. He knows what our grandchildren will be named and what they will do with their lives. He is simply saying that he knew us, and what we would be like before he even created the world. He is simply showing his power as God. I don't believe you can take those two verses and develope a whole idea of us being here on the previous earth as spititual beings. I don't believe that it gives that sort of idea, nor do I believe you can find enough proof to prove that in the Bible. I mean if that is the case, then why are we here now, and why do we have to accept Jesus to get "back" to where we came from. I just don't see that clearly at all on the Bible.
 

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Gen 1:1-31 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. 6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. 24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.Gen 2:1-25 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. 11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. 13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. 14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates. 15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. 18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. 20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. 21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.You argument is based on your own commentary. A general reading of Gen. 1 and 2 does not allow for a gap where you can insert all kinds of non-sense.
 

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....You argument is based on your own commentary. A general reading of Gen. 1 and 2 does not allow for a gap where you can insert all kinds of non-sense.
The gap is between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. Not between chapters 1 and 2
 

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Even so Genesis 1;2 is "progressive parallelism" or "recapitulations." telling us the works of God in Genesis 1;1
 

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Well Univac, just as with many other truths in the Bible, you have to study some things out deeper. Not everything is right there in front of you. If it was then one could read the whole Bible once and know everything. God hid truths in there so we would have to study them out and find them. We are to search for wisdom as for hid treasure the Bible says. Treasure is always buried, it isn't right there in the open for everyone to see. Sometimes you have to dig in the Word to find new treasure. I suggest you study some more besides just reading over the chapters. I can give you many many verses to support what we are all disscussing on here.Explain to me then the verses about "replenishing" the earth Univac.
 

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Well Univac, just as with many other truths in the Bible, you have to study some things out deeper. Not everything is right there in front of you. If it was then one could read the whole Bible once and know everything. God hid truths in there so we would have to study them out and find them. We are to search for wisdom as for hid treasure the Bible says. Treasure is always buried, it isn't right there in the open for everyone to see. Sometimes you have to dig in the Word to find new treasure. I suggest you study some more besides just reading over the chapters. I can give you many many verses to support what we are all disscussing on here.Explain to me then the verses about "replenishing" the earth Univac.
Well dinosaurs used to dwell on the earth before man in a nice plenished place, what happened to them? Happened to the world. Leaving the world to be replenished.I believe the Garden of Eden was the intended starting point of replenishment of the earth.
 

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Well Univac, just as with many other truths in the Bible, you have to study some things out deeper. Not everything is right there in front of you. If it was then one could read the whole Bible once and know everything. God hid truths in there so we would have to study them out and find them. We are to search for wisdom as for hid treasure the Bible says. Treasure is always buried, it isn't right there in the open for everyone to see. Sometimes you have to dig in the Word to find new treasure. I suggest you study some more besides just reading over the chapters. I can give you many many verses to support what we are all disscussing on here.Explain to me then the verses about "replenishing" the earth Univac.
Well dinosaurs used to dwell on the earth before man in a nice plenished place, what happened to them? Happened to the world. Leaving the world to be replenished.I believe the Garden of Eden was the intended starting point of replenishment of the earth.Geez, we did exist when dinosaurs was around (Job 40:15-24) because God said it. (Job 40:15) The only difference was, We were not humans at that time... back in that First Earth Age. Humans didn't exist at all until Genesis 1:26-28 which is now, the Second Earth Age.
 

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Job 40; 15-24 are you saying that we were a hippoptamus, please explain this so I may understand with a open mind.
 

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Job 40; 15-24 are you saying that we were a hippoptamus, please explain this so I may understand with a open mind.
It's BEHEMOTH. It's NOT a hippopotamus.
 

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BEHEMOTH never read that word in the Bible, God's word say's in Job 40;15 Look at the hippopotamus, I made him as I made you; he eats grass like cattle.
 

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BEHEMOTH never read that word in the Bible, God's word say's in Job 40:15 Look at the hippopotamus, I made him as I made you; he eats grass like cattle.
What translation of the bible are you reading? Cause it's not in my bible. There are hippos living today. Behemoth are not living today.