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JohnDB

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Participating in a political crusade?

This is as bad an idea as "killing babies for Jesus".

Politics was the vehicle that was used to humiliate and kill Jesus.
Why on earth Christians think they should get that involved with politics is beyond me.

Why go to DC and act like some sort of crazed militia mob?
Sure, not many people believe in the Election results being accurate...but both sides had their day and it's over.
And if the politicians had played their cards better it would have worked out for them in the end. But they didn't.

Now it's gotten to a fever pitch and people who should be advocating peace are advocating violence. That's not going to work out well.
 

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Dear Mary.... I want you to know that I am not ignoring your statement to me... I am choosing not to engage in conversation with you as I do not trust that your question is an innocent inquiry... I do however Bless you. Thanks for understanding. :D
Thank you for your honesty....
 
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Blessings to you as well. :)

We may be witnessing the first footfalls of a great falling away. The time may come soon that the dedicated (to A/C and the beast system) will think they're doing God's bidding by reporting us for disobedience and disloyalty.
Most here don't appreciate my stance. I am not a supporter of either candidate. I believe both are two sides of the same (NWO) coin.

The reason I speak out so much against Trump is because I see so many fooled and blindly following....like zombies. And truly, that's what's happening. A little over 4 yrs ago, I fell asleep listening to a homestead/gardening video. And while I was asleep, I dreamed there was a large gathering and a man speaking. I felt myself being sucked into a trance by this voice. Internally, I realized what was happening and shook myself awake ...and when I awoke, there was this same voice on YouTube. You probably guessed it. It was Trump. I guess after my homesteading video stopped playing, YouTube played the next video in their suggested que ....a Trump rally.

I knew I didn't like him before, but that really opened my eyes to something spiritually dark working with him. And I have learned some things from victims of his that confirm my concerns.

(And you will see, this also is not well received. But most of my brothers and sisters can't seem to understand that I don't say these things lightly and I love my brothers and sisters, otherwise, I wouldn't be warning people. :( )
 
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We may be witnessing the first footfalls of a great falling away. The time may come soon that the dedicated (to A/C and the beast system) will think they're doing God's bidding by reporting us for disobedience and disloyalty.
Most here don't appreciate my stance. I am not a supporter of either candidate. I believe both are two sides of the same (NWO) coin.

The reason I speak out so much against Trump is because I see so many fooled and blindly following....like zombies. And truly, that's what's happening. A little over 4 yrs ago, I fell asleep listening to a homestead/gardening video. And while I was asleep, I dreamed there was a large gathering and a man speaking. I felt myself being sucked into a trance by this voice. Internally, I realized what was happening and shook myself awake ...and when I awoke, there was this same voice on YouTube. You probably guessed it. It was Trump. I guess after my homesteading video stopped playing, YouTube played the next video in their suggested que ....a Trump rally.

I knew I didn't like him before, but that really opened my eyes to something spiritually dark working with him. And I have learned some things from victims of his that confirm my concerns.

(And you will see, this also is not well received. But most of my brothers and sisters can't seem to understand that I don't say these things lightly and I love my brothers and sisters, otherwise, I wouldn't be warning people. :( )

My cousin is on her way to take me out to coffee... I will respond to this when I return home.
 
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My cousin is on her way to take me out to coffee... I will respond to this when I return home.
Looking forward to it. Have a blessed visit with your cousin! :)
 

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I think America is being humbled... right in front of the entire world. Some will take heed but many will not.

No argument there. This world has gone the way of Babylon and no doubt America has fallen from grace and a day of reckoning is at hand.
I haven't watched tv for at least 3 years now. I do watch boots on the ground journalists. The people inside the court rooms, the one's bringing the lawsuits. The educated people that don't have a personal agenda for their own profit.
I read Government documents. I read the judicial cases. I don't listen to how the media spins it.
I listen to both sides and follow the forensic facts not the bias suppositions.

I've been saying for years, the only way to fix this is to crash it all to the ground and begin again.
Like a chalk board needs to be wiped clean and begin with the fundamental truths.
Problem is, who gets to determine those truths? Scientists, Religious Organizations, Technology, who?

There is at this time a dual reality. Those that have faith in God and man's right for freedom and basic human dignity, and those who manipulate for their own personal gain. I am not talking about the average person just trying to make ends meet day to day. But those that have an agenda to be part of an elite group that make laws for others and yet follow no laws themselves.
And this isn't a partisan or party issue. They want to make it about party or gender or race or equality. This is a tool they use to divide the people.

You and I, even though we may not see eye to eye politically, could probably still go out together and enjoy a cup of coffee or some other recreation and get along great. Some how politics have become the measuring stick in which to judge your friends by.
What we are experiencing is the story of the good samaritan. We are being challenged to look beyond ideoligies and being controlled what to think about each other. This whole thing is a deception and we the people all have fallen into it's trap.

Everytime I poke a finger at you or you poke a finger at me or her him or him her.. we fall into their trap.
The only one we have control over is oneself. And then those that agree with the same philosphy tend to form groups of like minded people.
And I don't have a problem with groups. I have a problem when this group tries to bully another group into their way of thinking.

I understand what many THINK and BELIEVE is happening... I get it... but I don't agree with it.

Alright. I see both sides as well but some things you have to choose a side and stand your ground.
The question then becomes, what moral line are you unwilling to cross just to keep the peace?
Where do you draw the line on right and wrong, good and evil?
This is the fundamental division the world is facing today.

It's not about party politics. It's about world dominance and the ability to control how and what people think and believe on all sides.
The difficult part is walking the straight and narrow and not being forced to believe this narrative or that narrative.
They are literally trying to kill God. They believe they are God and their word is truth.
That's why I believe we are here. To find the road least travelled.

and the fact that you are telling me that I need to adjust my observation is quite revealing... because it suggests that what you believe is superior.... another trend I am noticing on these threads.

Alright, I can understand how you hear the "tone" of my words as being superior although that's not my intention.
It is very difficult to have a heart felt conversation on a forum board. I'm not suggesting a superior view but as you already stated an equal and unbiased view of both sides. I have no desire to attack other people for their views but it does get tiring always being on the defense of one's own views.

So, I will keep sharing where I stand and the moral line I am unwilling to cross and others will share theirs. And maybe somewhere along the way we can find common ground. It's there if we make that a priority.

God Bless
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This isn't about a virus. Not masks or loud noise. This is about the Constitution of the United States of America and whether we remain a free Republic or if we will come under socialist/communist rule.
The 6th is the day that Americans will stand and defend our Constitution.
Cut off the head of the snake and freeze his assets and Antifa will dissipate. They know that George Soros has given $150+ million to fund these anarchists. He contributed $33 million to ignite Ferguson and more to each and every disruptive divisive and damaging protest for decades. This is his mission, "The USA is the obstacle ...," says Soros.
But it doesn't stop there. Soros is a partial owner of the Wuhan Lab in China and also has several labs under different names in the US. The virus is certainly part of their strategy to control the masses and destroy our economy and implement the Great Reset. Regardless of who is president, we are going down. Trump cannot fix this, He cannot thwart the Antichrist, nor erase prophecy.
God is sovereign, so whatever He allows will be part of the Great Tribulation scenario. Still, we do participate in His plan, we do not remain passive and roll over. History proves that.
Imho, if God appoints Trump, war with China is likely and war in the Middle East as well. If God appoints Biden, war in the Middle East is likely to happen sooner -because we won't have Israel's back. And there will be more pestilence to add to that, Covid-21 - regardless if who is president.
The good news is, what comes after the GT, peace on earth for 1000 years.
This world is too corrupt and has reached its precipise. No one except Jesus can fix this world.
 
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It won't necessarily be a great time. But the good people aren't going to have a good time - this isn't the purpose. We can't let the evil ones steal the country and turn it into a socialist/ communist dead zone.
Why are so many Christians missing the point? Violence is not the answer!! The root of the problem is right here....

“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” — 2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV)

1 Peter 4 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹⁷ For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? ¹⁸ And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

“Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” — 1 Peter 5:6 (KJV)
 
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Why are so many Christians missing the point? Violence is not the answer!! The root of the problem is right here....

“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” — 2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV)

1 Peter 4 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹⁷ For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? ¹⁸ And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

“Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” — 1 Peter 5:6 (KJV)

It's not the "My people" that is at issue here. It's the ones who do not believe there is a God and are trying desperately to erase him, that are the issue. We have not resorted to violence even though we have been denied work, denied being with loved ones on their death beds, denied the assembly of going to church even though hundreds can wander through the local wal-mart next door.
We have not resroted to violence while watching our cities burn, our law enforcement get spat upon and defunded.
We stood by while they took over a city and turned it into a summer of love that turned into a drug fest and murder.
I have watched people get beaten and murdered in broad daylight because of a color of a hat.
Elderly people in assisted living facilities literally genocided by placing sick patients in their facility.
Governors who decide that plant seed in spring are non-essential whil they tell you not to have a bar b que in your own backyard and yet they go to funerals and parties and hairdressers they tell you that you can't attend.

Yesterday I watched the House swear in the new congress. After the first group was sworn in, the entire chamber went around hugging each other with congratulations and laughter and smiles.
I thought to myself.. how many grandmas and grandpas have been denied a hug by their grandchildren. How many widows and widowers wish they were able to have one last hug.

Judgement will begin at the house of God. It's been a long time coming. So why are you surprised if God should raise his arm to exact justice on the evildoers?
Who will hold them accountable, themselves? Hardly.

I don't advocate for violence. But I do advocate for self defence. Even for the defence of our country.
We stood by silent long enough. God is waking up.
Even Daniel wouldn't bow to the golden idol. There are a lot of Daniels in this country.

There is a reason for the call to assembly on the 6th. And I believe it is supposed to be, to show our representatives to stand for what is right and not to bow down to corporate greed and the golden idol placed before them.
It's not about violence, even though it may turn violent. That is not the goal or intention of the people's right to bring grievences to the Government.

God's will, will be done by whatever means He decides to use to get it done.
Trust God.
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According to scripture, the answer is clear.....those who are God's people are called to humble themselves and pray ....and then God will heal our land!! The reason we see such violence is because God's people have lost sight of Him while looking on the world for their answers. And now it's to the point they believe that they must resort to violence as well. It's a shame....
 

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Go out into the fields that are ripe and ready to harvest. Do the work of the kingdom....boots on the ground MINISTRY ...bring the Gospel to the lost! That's where we'll see change.
 

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Why are so many Christians missing the point? Violence is not the answer!! The root of the problem is right here....

“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” — 2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV)

1 Peter 4 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹⁷ For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? ¹⁸ And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

“Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” — 1 Peter 5:6 (KJV)

I cannot make a better statement then what you have made here. I believe this is what is needed... and I could add on a whole bunch of "my opinions" about this or that.... but I have voiced them already... and I am deeply grieved by what I am witnessing.

Somehow... 4 years ago.... the evangelical Christians decided that Trump was Cyrus... and that this was America's moment... The "prophets" declared that God promised His children another 4 years of power and well... the rest is soon to be history. Pride has over taken any kind of common sense and sensibility in my opinion.

The western world... Canada and America are NOT operating in a Christian manner at all.... Canada has never claimed to be a Christian nation... and we are NOT.... but America has suddenly claimed special protection and favour... when in all actuality... the nation has been declining for decades.

I do believe the "prophets" got it wrong... plain and simple... and attending a gathering that is threatening to bring forth violence is NOT God's way of accomplishing His Will. I am unable to see it any other way.

@Ziggy You my friend have NEVER disrespected me... I have heard your heart speak... and I know that you have a passionate conviction to save your country... I believe you are also humble enough to admit that repentance and humility is needed.... and on this we AGREE.

I am in need of being STILL now.
 
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You gotta go



No I don't.



Participating in a political crusade?

This is as bad an idea as "killing babies for Jesus".

Politics was the vehicle that was used to humiliate and kill Jesus.
Why on earth Christians think they should get that involved with politics is beyond me.

Why go to DC and act like some sort of crazed militia mob?
Sure, not many people believe in the Election results being accurate...but both sides had their day and it's over.
And if the politicians had played their cards better it would have worked out for them in the end. But they didn't.

Now it's gotten to a fever pitch and people who should be advocating peace are advocating violence. That's not going to work out well.







I see your point but Trump supporters aren't like BLM and ANTIFA. All their/our protests are is peaceful Americans coming together who love our country and a lot of them (actually from what I've seen the majority) love the Lord as well.
 

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I see your point but Trump supporters aren't like BLM and ANTIFA. All their/our protests are is peaceful Americans coming together who love our country and a lot of them (actually from what I've seen the majority) love the Lord as well.

But from the rumblings this is going to be a riot pure and simple.

The thinly veiled threats of violence are extremely disturbing... even if there isn't violence the intimidation factor isn't acceptable either.

Our fight/struggle isn't physical. It's spiritual.
And that battle is being lost due to stunts like this one.
 
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Those who attend deserve whatever befalls them. It's a given there will be violence. That's precisely why they're going, if not, to at least see a huge fight. There will be gawkers, inciters, and ones who want an excuse to fight....and Trump promoting it ...wow....
The Patriots are not going there for violence bit is the last thing they want to see. Antifa and BLM is another matter - they are attending precisely as you say to bring violence.
 
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I certainly don't know of any christians that are promoting violence - quite the contrary. I wouldnt think there are any real christians on the Antifa, BLM, George Soros side of the house. At least not any that would support senseless violence and destruction as these groups do.
 
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I certainly don't know of any christians that are promoting violence - quite the contrary. I wouldnt think there are any real christians on the Antifa, BLM, George Soros side of the house. At least not any that would support senseless violence and destruction as these groups do.
I have seen people on this forum say that Jesus would want us to take up arms to defend the presidency.
 

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Is defending something that is important the same as promoting violence?! Don't think so.
Yes, it is, especially when neither candidate is a Godly choice.
Why not let the presidency issue follow due process?

How about advocate for and defend the children being born into modern day slavery here in our own nation? The same people who advocate pointing guns at others over political differences couldn't care less about the current MK governmental trauma-based mind control programs that are still ongoing, including under Trump's administration. He never cleaned the swamp, just filled the swamp with new swamp creatures.
 
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