Apostolicity

[Episkopos]

The Apostles raised the dead did they not?

They wrote down their traditions did they not?

You first ignore the tradition because the power isn't there to raise the dead...then you say you obey the bible?

 

[Dave L]

They wrote down their traditions did they not?

Truth to live by? Yes.

 

[Episkopos]

Truth to live by? Yes.

You are being very selective here. Do you follow the 1 Cor.14 tradition in church meetings...or not.

 

[Dave L]

You are being very selective here. Do you follow the 1 Cor.14 tradition in church meetings...or not.

My preferred meeting is in NT house church fashion, brought into line with the post apostolic era.

 

[Episkopos]

My preferred meeting is in NT house church fashion, brought into line with the post apostolic era.

Mine as well. But I don't seek to conform to what men have tinkered with.

 

[Dave L]

Mine as well. But I don't seek to conform to what men have tinkered with.

I just go by scripture.

 

[Episkopos]

I just go by scripture.

There you go...can you lie? Like a sidewalk...

 

[Dave L]

There you go...can you lie? Like a sidewalk...

Scripture is the final authority. You teach many concepts on the forum. If they square with scripture I click the like button.

 

[CoreIssue]

I just go by scripture.

 

[Dave L]

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You must first know scripture to know if this is true.

 

[CoreIssue]

Why do some love the word tradition?

Just say teaching.

 

[CoreIssue]

You must first know scripture to know if this is true.

That leaves you out.

 

[Dave L]

That leaves you out.

It only leaves me out of the circles you became trapped in.

 

[Episkopos]

Scripture is the final authority. You teach many concepts on the forum. If they square with scripture I click the like button.

We are to raise the dead.

 

[Dave L]

We are to raise the dead.

I'm just saying we no longer have the apostolic signs and wonders that confirmed apostleship. They no longer exist. But they remain with us in their writings.

 

[Episkopos]

I'm just saying we no longer have the apostolic signs and wonders that confirmed apostleship. They no longer exist. But they remain with us in their writings.

You are the one that defended a lack of apostolicity in our practice in the first place....using your type of circular reasoning.

So then we have to start at the OP again... in a circle.

What makes something apostolic?

 

[CoreIssue]

We are to raise the dead.

Mystic statement.

Guru on the mountain top.

 

[Episkopos]

Mystic statement.

Guru on the mountain top.

Jesus is not like a guru. Jesus commands us to raise the dead. (Of course not the fable of Jesus you espouse....but the real Jesus)

To you the real Jesus is too hard to comprehend. Too miraculous. Too fantastic. So you limit your Jesus to your own imagination.

You can do nothing...so you don't. But you criticize those who have faith in Jesus. You are just a troll here.

 

[Willie T]

The Apostles raised the dead did they not?

Do we have recorded instances of all 12 doing that? Perhaps some were not gifted that way?

 

[Willie T]

I'm just saying we no longer have the apostolic signs and wonders that confirmed apostleship. They no longer exist. But they remain with us in their writings.

Gosh. How much of what God offers us you are going to miss with that attitude. Because those things will likely never be known to you. The Bible DOES say we have to believe in order to receive.