Apostolicity

[Episkopos]

Show us the resurrected dead people and we'll believe you know what you're talking about.

See what I mean? You are doing the circle again. It was expected.

 

[CoreIssue]

Practically speaking...how do you recognize and act upon Christ being the "head" in an assembly? No leadership? Allowing the Spirit to lead? How?

It isn't an assembly. It is a body.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Practically speaking...how do you recognize and act upon Christ being the "head" in an assembly? No leadership? Allowing the Spirit to lead? How?

Not sure what you are wanting to be said here? Are you an apostle with the signs of an apostle? 2 Corinthians 12:12 Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

 

[Enoch111]

Not sure what you are wanting to be said here? Are you an apostle with the signs of an apostle? 2 Corinthians 12:12 Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

Episkopos would have to be a miracle worker to fulfil this. In any event there are only TWELVE apostles of the Lamb, and their names will be engraved in the twelve foundations of the New Jerusalem.

 

[Mayflower]

What makes something "apostolic?"

Catholics believe their church is such based on a bizarre reference to "succession." (As if there was a family kingship being passed down)

Others believe it means the "headship of Christ"....whatever that means in practical terms.

But mostly people are unconcerned about how apostolic their doctrine and practice is....as long as it is somewhat biblical

What say you?

Do you espouse apostolic doctrine? Engage in apostolic fellowship?

I think it means different things in the North and South. In the South, Apostolic was very similar to Assembly of God doctrine. Up North, it is close to Mennonite or Amish. They wear coverings on their heads, and would never pray in tongues or anything like that. So Id need to research what definition it is. I would say I have Christian doctrine most closely related to Independent Baptist.

 

[Helen]

I have always believed that an Apostle is one anointed to build and establish churches as the went from place to place preaching . They set in leadership , elders ,to tend and keep...and then circled round those churches teaching and establishing them to maturity.

That what Paul and the others did. A traveling preacher is just that...but an apostle started, settled, built , and then moved on and did it again . He was the overseerer of all the churches that he had “birthed”. That’s way he traveled and visited so much to visit them all regularly.

My belief.

 

[Dave L]

See what I mean? You are doing the circle again. It was expected.

If you had any tangible proof for the Apostolic age existing today, I would believe you.

 

[soul man]

What makes something "apostolic?"

Catholics believe their church is such based on a bizarre reference to "succession." (As if there was a family kingship being passed down)

Others believe it means the "headship of Christ"....whatever that means in practical terms.

But mostly people are unconcerned about how apostolic their doctrine and practice is....as long as it is somewhat biblical

What say you?

Do you espouse apostolic doctrine? Engage in apostolic fellowship?

Means nothing, just a name

 

[bbyrd009]

There are no apostles since John died. The "gifts" they distributed through their hands ceased with them.

just bc you do not witness any of those gifts does not mean they have ceased Dave.
Pluck your right eye out and they become crystal clear ok.
the gifts maybe ceased with you, but they have not ceased at all, honest
It pleases God to give good gifts to His children

 

[bbyrd009]

If you had any tangible proof for the Apostolic age existing today, I would believe you.

I mean listen to yourself now Dave, asking for proof and facts that you can see with your two eyes bro. Cmon. First you could maybe phrase this so that you are not the subject, and we could maybe discuss the concept on an impersonal level ok, I mean otherwise your head is coming off again bro

 

[Dave L]

just bc you do not witness any of those gifts does not mean they have ceased Dave.
Pluck your right eye out and they become crystal clear ok.
the gifts maybe ceased with you, but they have not ceased at all, honest
It pleases God to give good gifts to His children

Go raise a few dead folks and then start chirping, Byrd.

 

[Dave L]

I mean listen to yourself now Dave, asking for proof and facts that you can see with your two eyes bro. Cmon

If you had any proof, I'd believe you.

 

[bbyrd009]

Means nothing, just a name

yes, ezacly like Christian I guess

 

[bbyrd009]

Go raise a few dead folks and then start chirping, Byrd.

well Dave you would be looking for literal dead people to start breathing again, right
when that is not what the passage is referring to at all I guess, the Spiritual Dead are plainly delineated elsewhere in the Book

 

[soul man]

yes, ezacly like Christian I guess

Pretty much, sry Byrd didn't mean to call you pretty

 

[Dave L]

well Dave you would be looking for literal dead people to start breathing again, right
when that is not what the passage is referring to at all I guess, the Spiritual Dead are plainly delineated elsewhere in the Book

So you agree the Apostolic age is long gone?

 

[bbyrd009]

If you had any proof, I'd believe you.

that's certainly logical, and I don't expect you to believe me right now Dave

 

[Dave L]

that's certainly logical, and I don't expect you to believe me right now Dave

Say something I can believe, I'll click the "like" button.

 

[bbyrd009]

So you agree the Apostolic age is long gone?

ha would it matter if I disagreed Dave? Obv not I guess huh.
So yes I agree it is long gone Dave, for you ok, see, I am agreeing with you now
all gone
you believe this right, so now you can click like ok

 

[soul man]

So you agree the Apostolic age is long gone?

You know the offices and gifts are for the children and their growth. Why would any spiritual mature being bring themselves down to a lower level (when they are literal bithed sons of God, and know it). Worldly earth living is for the growing babes, the immature.
The mind of the spiritual is seated in Christ, their understanding has nothing to do with earth living.