So, it seems... The consensus is... Most of those who believe in Rapture also believe in Bible codes? Now, on to Rapture..... I don't think those who believe in rapture are doomed to take the mark of the beast, and I don't think that it's dangerous exactly. If someone has Jesus, it doesn't matter if they believe Rapture or not. The Holy Spirit will lead you into all truths and comfort you. So, that said.... If Bible codes go along with the majority of Pre-tribbers, then we should change this topic subject. Just from my observation and my thoughts,, Bible codes are not from God, and are merely mans way of trying to make themselves a Prophet, without the will of God. The other doctrines that seem to fit along these categories is,, Rapture. Rapture is a self comforting idea. The tribulations don't sound great, and it's a great fear that many have. To think that even a believer in Jesus will have to suffer for it,, to some is unbearable. Some who believe in Rapture accuse those who don't of calling God a liar, and saying that you aren't saved because the Rapture doctrine isn't revealed to you from the Word of God. That means the Gospel is hidden from you. Are we saying that this also leads to the Bible Codes, and Picture Codes? If someone being of the mind frame to have "secret" knowledge of the scriptures, and that makes them a Prophet, it would also go to say, that if you see rapture in the scriptures, then that proves you're saved, because rapture is supposed to be part of the revelation that comes from God when a person becomes saved. Also, leading to the mind set that if you don't have physical signs of the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, that you're not saved. Are all these connected to one and the same? You have to speak in tongues or your not saved, You have to believe in Rapture or your not saved, If you speak against the Bible code you're not saved, Because if you speak against anyone who does any of the above, you are a false teacher and a false prophet,,, You are one of the scoffers the bible talked about,, And, by you not agreeing, you are hating the prophecy of God, and calling Him a liar, and you are going against the Prophets and the Word of God, and are thus doomed because of it. Is this what we're saying with this?