Are Bible codes from God?

[Christina]

Evening everyone :) Let me see if I can give you a few thoughts to consider here Rapture is the most dangerous false doctrine we have today ... Why is that ? Its not believing it could be that's dangerous ... What makes it so dangerous is the way its taught ... People are told by their Pastors/preachers ..They do not have to understand the last days because they will be gone (fly away) this is the reason God hates it this is what makes it dangerous God spent 1/3 of the Bible telling us what would come to befall us during this time ... Does this make one think he thought it of the utmost importance???? Now here men are saying its not important you will be gone .... God thought it of great Importance ..Who you going to listen to?? men or God ? Why does God think it so important your very soul is at stake ...If you do not heed his warnings in 2 Thess. Rev. and other books and learn that Antichrist comes first!!!!!!!!you will believe the delusion that he is the real christ ... Just staying close to Jesus isnt enough if you are not prepared for whats coming as Satan is a master at twisting the Word ... It will be so great a delusion on all mankind that God literally had to shorten the days or the very Elect of God would be fooled ... God is warning you for the very sake of saving your soul of these things ahead of time and men say ...dont worry you do not need to know about these things .... Thats why its the most dangerous false doctrine out there ... My dear Brother Mike you by your very own words stated you don't much bother with much of the end time stuff ... Now every detail we need not understand but we best better get this part straight who is coming first and the major things down ... because the price is very high to not learn this stuff. God will say I wrote you a letter ..did you read it saying, Im not much into it doesnt sound so great an excuse when we must face him face to face... We must take this with as much importance as God did when he wrote it to us. For the sake of our soul. Now Eze 13:20 is about Rapture you do not have to see it or believe it, as one can come to find the truth of no Rapture with out getting this verse in Eze. but what is talked about in this verse and the next few is what we might call today slight of hand by the magician when he waves the white kerchief over the hat and pulls out a rabbit its slight of hand trickery .... there is only one doctrine that teaches you are going to fly like birds outta here and that Rapture ,,, So whether one understands this verse or not .... does not change the fact that flying away is a false doctrine pre trib rapture is not written the opposite is ...When ever one sees a doctrine that is the oppisite of Gods teaching ..You can bet Satan has his hand behind it ... Now we can disagree on many doctrines ...But few ever go as far as to teach the exact oppisite of God Word ... When would God ever say ... You do need to read or worry about what I wrote to you ..1/3 of the Bible !!!!!!!!!!!!! No never never this was Satan working through a mentally disturbed girl. God says there is nothing new under the sun (everything that happened before will happen again) We are in a time that we can compare to the Exodus we about to cross over to our promised land which is the Millenium age where Christ is King of Kings Now remember when the angel of death came to the first born sons did God protect his own ? Yes he did ....how by the lambs blood on the door post ... So it will be again God will protect all his sons by the blood of the lamb Jesus Christ on the doorpost of our hearts/minds if they follow him to the End ... But if they do not know the truth that he does not come before a fake christ (antichrist) they will be following the wrong christ ..... Rapture short circuits this teaching by your Father ...And thats why its dangerous and IMHO devils doctine

 

[Brother Mike]

Christina:

What makes it so dangerous is the way its taught ... People are told by their Pastors/preachers ..They do not have to understand the last days because they will be gone (fly away) this is the reason God hates it this is what makes it dangerous

I Never heard that!!! Jesus said watch and pray, not ignore. I had no idea that is being taught... You make more sense now that I have this information. I can see where this would be a deadly problem.

Just staying close to Jesus isnt enough if you are not prepared for whats coming as Satan is a master at twisting the Word ... It will be so great a delusion on all mankind that God literally had to shorten the days or the very Elect of God would be fooled ...

Well, Jesus said if it were possible. Here we cross barriers on the Elect doctrine. Who was Jesus talking to? His ministry was to the Jews. I find it very doubtful that if you and I are still here, that we can be fooled. Once again, you see Jesus talking to the church now, and I see him talking to those that where (Left Behind). Satan is not that bright.

because the price is very high to not learn this stuff. God will say I wrote you a letter ..did you read it saying, Im not much into it doesnt sound so great an excuse when we must face him face to face... We must take this with as much importance as God did when he wrote it to us. For the sake of our soul.

for that I am thankful. I am glad to get some insight to your perspective. If we get Raptured or stay here, we still have a Job to do, and we have to stick ourselves to the Word.

does not change the fact that flying away is a false doctrine pre trib rapture is not written the opposite is ...When ever one sees a doctrine that is the oppisite of Gods teaching ..You can bet Satan has his hand behind it ...

I am still not buying into that eze theory. I have never heard the term "Fly Away" until today. As for scriptures, there are scriptures for a "Rapture" and evidence of like things. In any case, Jesus said you and I will escape anyway, even if stuck here for a few years.

When would God ever say ... You do need to read or worry about what I wrote to you ..1/3 of the Bible !!!!!!!!!!!!! No never never this was Satan working through a mentally disturbed girl.

How many scriptures do you want? Fear not, over 50 some times. Be not afraid over 45 times. Be of good courage?? Some bibles translate this to worry, and any worry is not good. I think we misunderstand what I call worry.

But if they do not know the truth that he does not come before a fake christ (antichrist) they will be following the wrong christ .....

One more time, being filled with the Holy Ghost, I can tell when a wrong spirit is operating, me and many others. I think we have different ideas on the "Who" can be deceived. Don't think that your all that weak!!! you know the scriptures, and if something does not line up, I have confidence that you will not tag along, being deceived like the rest. Thank you Christina!!! This shows love, and you have taken the time to explain more of your position. I am very thankful for your concern. It's our views though, that get in the way. I take a very authoritative position in Christ Jesus. The devil is already defeated, and this last attempt for world domination will be his biggest failure. If by any chance we get Raptured out of here, so Satan can operate without any hindrances, I promise to not say "I told you so." God bless you and Jesus Is Lord.

 

[gervais]

[quote name='WhiteKnuckle;72807]What are these Bible codes? People are saying that there's Number codes in the bible' date=' and picture codes. Supposedly these are all prophecy of the future. Are they scriptural? In my opinion, they aren't. I know there's knowledgeable people here.[/QUOTE']It depends on what "code" you are referring too. There are a number of Acrostics in the Bible. These are a code written in the text. The short book of Esther has five Acrostics that give the Hebrew name of God. The Psalms have many more. Also, the meanings of numbers in Scripture could be seen as a code.I'm staying out of the "rapture" thing. Those that want to believe it, knock yourselves out, we'll work with you later.

 

[WhiteKnuckle]

Could you explain these codes a little more?

 

[Christina]

Well, Jesus said if it were possible. Here we cross barriers on the Elect doctrine. Who (quote)was Jesus talking to? His ministry was to the Jews. I find it very doubtful that if you and I are still here, that we can be fooled. Once again, you see Jesus talking to the church now, and I see him talking to those that where (Left Behind). Satan is not that bright. (quote).... ................... Do not underestimate Satan it is mistake..He is capable of testing Jesus himself... A couple other things you are mistaken about ... There are no scriptures about Pretrib Rapture never was .... The doctrine was invented by men in 1830 then they went about finding a few scriptures that could support it ...Thus its official title is "The Rapture Theory" ... A theory by definition is something that can not be proven ..Why can't it be proven it isnt written ..Its just that simple ..and Jesus never taught it ....One must first know the doctrine before they could ever even think they see it ... Sense when does God say make up your doctrine and then see if I might have hinted at it ???? This doctrine is only taught in America or by American Educated preachers because its not written ... Mike if you remember our workers building the house analogy the leaders/Elect would be equivalent to the apostles If the delusion is so strong it could even (if possible fool the Elect what chance do those in our fast food religion churches have ??Its only not possible to fool them because God shortens the time ... God is making an important point here ... Do not over look his warning because some twist the Elect doctrine. one last question .... When earth earth is reeling from natural disasters and the deadly wound, If a man looking like our perception of Jesus arrives from the heavens says he is here to save us, He can perform miracles and wonders, He will promise to rapture you out of here as soon as you convince a few more people to follow him,He may even produce the ark of the covenant, he will make world peace, the world will love him...sounds wonderful .... How you going to know if this is a fake ?? The common idea is that antichrist is horrible and he kills people and we all know him this awful man ...... 100% wrong Antichrist comes in peacefully and prosperously he makes world peace he will be holding reviles and all the world will think they are safe and love worker this of miracles ...He doesn't want us dead .. He gains nothing he wants our souls he wins them by lies and flattery's not killing and mayhem ... How are you going to know the differance ... There is only one way By knowing Gods truth as he wrote it ... Rapture is not what he wrote... God says ..1Th 5:3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. Now I ask you if Rapture is true why would the World think they are safe and at peace if all believers are gone and only the bad are left here on earth as the Left Behind series portrays .... Christains think they taken away and the rest are left to their murdous, preverted, waring , ways ... Then why does God say the world will think they are safe and at peace ????? I will tell you why they think that christ is here making his false peace and winning souls..... Then comes sudden destruction ...Why because Christ returns and finds the world is following Antichrist (the beast) and he is not happy heres what he says to belivers (these are not non believers) but his believers Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

 

[gervais]

http://levendwater.org/companion/index_companion.html[/url]Look at Appendicies 60 and 63.

 

[Christina]

http://levendwater.org/companion/index_companion.html[/URL] Look at Appendicies 60 and 63.

Sorry gervais your right here .... I claim its Brother Mikes fault ;)just kidding we should take the rapture chat to No rapture thread.

 

[Brother Mike]

t’s obvious that certain people do not want to address the subject of this post.

Oh that. world destruction and mayhem is so much more interesting than a bible code. There is nothing we can use out of that code. Nothing we can track and know future events. =============================================Staying on topic. what I could have found in the bible code if I had looked.Christina. I don't see scripture that tells us that Mr. Antichrist tries to make himself out as Jesus. He sits in the temple mount to be called gOD!!We have three places in the bible. Two Jesus tells us MANY will come and claim to be him. That is many!!!The other scripture He says some will come and claim to be anointed of God. Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? The key to this is His NAME!!!! His name has authority, and God can use anyone, even a donkey. There are also FREE gifts of the Spirit to operate on men, these are free gifts, no strings attached. I know several people that God used in a mighty way, only to fall and die early. It's those that do his will and produce good fruit as we know them by there fruit. The gifts are for anyone that will step out in faith and receive them. Rom 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; The (Main) Antichrist passing himself off as Jesus? NO!!! He comes to appease this wicked World. Hard left liberal thinking. He lifts up the thoughts and belief systems that are already in place. He calls evil Good, and God warned us about that in several places. He regards not women, He is homosexual, and appeals to many that think they were oppressed because of others belief in God, and God's way. He starts right off the bat, putting down the things of God.Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. 1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. This is what the World wants!!! someone with actual power to back their corrupted belief's. You and I will not be any more fooled than we are now with all the new and corrupted laws being put in place.His ideals and systems will appeal greatly to carnal man.Christiana I am trying to hang with you. I really am, but I just don't see anywhere the Antichrist tries to fool anyone into thinking he is Jesus. What Jesus talked about has already happened and will continue to happen. The time of the end is not yet though. You remember Jim Jones? David Koresh?============1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation (Salvation-Greek for rescued, safety, healed. Physically and morally) by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1Th 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Sooooooooooo.. BAM outta here!!!Christina, The Antichrist is not going to pass himself off as Jesus. Who would follow him but a few silly Christians. The World does not want anyone like Jesus, they want someone to say it's ok to do as the flesh wants to do. It is the World that will be deceived into following him. Its the parents that get bent out of shape because the Teacher led the class in prayer in the name of Jesus. Those are the types of people that will follow, to erease the valuse of God completly out of school, out of our Goverment, and out of our money system. That's what the World wants, not ANOTHER Jesus imatator. Christina I have looked over a bunch of scriptures in a attempt to see your point. I do see some good points, and just becuase I don't agree with some of them, does not mean they won't help anyone. All I ask is you look again at what you think is true. If you think we are going to hang around, fine by me. Just look at who the Antichrist really is, and what he is going to offer.God bless Sister. We should have taken this over to Gumby's thread on NO rapture. If you respond, throw some bible code stuff in to make others happy. Your Brother in the Lord!!!!!!Jesus Is Lord.

 

[Christina]

dear brother Mike I have read many bible codes and found them to be quite accurate after the fact ... But agree they can not be used to predict the future Like scripture can lets take the Anti for example: it means instead of so when we combine Anti (instead of ) with the word christ we get instead of christ ..He most certainly will be playing christ .... God and Christ are one .... Antichrist is a supernatural being the bible says he can perform miracles luke see him as lightning falling from the sky .... he is the great copy cat he will mimic christ second coming how many do you think are prepared for this ??? I have studied this topic in depth for over 20 years .... I know it well .. In fact when I started I was a Rapture believer and wanted to discover more ..Lo and behold to my surprise it is not written Did anyone ever look up your name in the bible codes ? Interesting results on my try at this.. all the surrouding text listed names of family members both dead and alive ...It gave me an intersting thought ... What if the Bible is also the book of life in code wouldnt that be a interesting turn of events ? How was that Mike enough code stuff :)

 

[Jordan]

Mike, Who is Jesus?John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.Since Jesus is God, how can He not be one?John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.I John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.John 14:8 - Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.John 14:9 - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?Is Satan claiming to be Christ? Yes!Isaiah 14:14 - I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.II Thessalonians 2:3 - Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;II Thessalonians 2:4 - Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.What did Satan do when he was around with Christ? Was He not tempted?Matthew 4:9 - And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.(Read Matthew 4:1-11 and Luke 4:1-13 for full story)Blessings

 

[Brother Mike]

dear brother Mike I have read many bible codes and found them to be quite accurate after the fact ... But agree they can not be used to predict the future

Yes!!! amazing things can be found, but useless to Christians. I think it's more to confound "Wise" men. Pretty cool though on How God did it.

Antichrist is a supernatural being the bible says he can perform miracles luke see him as lightning falling from the sky

lying signs and wonders.......... Some fire from the sky, turned a staff into a snake. He is a counterfeit. I don't think it will be that impressive, not compared to when God rolls the stars up like a scroll, now that will be impressive.

how many do you think are prepared for this ??? I have studied this topic in depth for over 20 years .... I know it well .. In fact when I started I was a Rapture believer and wanted to discover more ..Lo and behold to my surprise it is not written

OK, no Rapture. Thats fine. I still don't see the connections to Satan trying to mimic Jesus. He sets himself up as god, not Jesus. This world would not follow someone that mimics Jesus, if they did, a whole lot more would be saved now, as we have real Christians that do walk as Jesus Walked.Jordan and Christina!!!There is a difference between wanting to be god, and trying to mimic Jesus. The AntiChrist can not pull that off, as there is no truth in him. Antichrist just means anti anointing. The anointing of God on people has always been his problem, and why he won't confess Christ (The anointed power of God) can be on the flesh. The greater one inside of us if far more powerful than Satan is. The tribulation will be a hard time for Satan, and his worse defeat. So, No Rapture!!! You win!!! I will attempt not to mention it again.If you get sucked out of here before all the cool stuff happens, don't blame me.Jesus is Lord.

 

[Christina]

You put together all the scriptures if it were not that bad why is the whole world fooled..... and that's not what Antichrist means but regardless ... But you are right in away it will be bad before he comes after he comes in peacefully and prosperously he is claiming to be the messiah as all antichrists do how many messiahs are you expecting that can perform miracles make lightening come down from the sky ... I say one we call him christ but he wont be the true christ then at and dont forget the delusion will the greatest the world has ever seen God even send two wittness to preach against him God is sending in the big guns for a reason at mid week he claims to be God ... You need to study the major events of end times to put this all in perspective ...but God warns us of these times to come from Gen. to Rev. for a good reason .... If you think this is just another whacko man claining to be the messiah like the ones we see all the time you would be greatly mistaken ....

 

[Brother Mike]

Bible code is so cool :cool:Just can't get enough of it.Antichrist.....Opponent of the Messiah. Messiah......Anointed by God, King, patriarchs. Anointed one. (As in filled with the Holy Ghost, Christ in the flesh) The reason devils run. Christ.....Christos....... Anointed one. Hebrew root Messiah. Jesus the anointed one and his anointing. I can do all things though Christ, anointing. Devils..............I have seen myself devils operate and do some things here on the planet. They are in the Angel class, and one angel of God can kill thousands in one night. I fully understand what your saying about them. Jesus gave us authority over them. I will just take your word for it, I still don't see how the World is going to fall for someone trying to act like Jesus. Anyway!!! God bless Sister, and peace. Thank you for the time you took explaining things to me. Jesus Is Lord

 

[Jordan]

Because Lucifer is so good at being the Pretender. He imitates Christ all the time. Even the End time events on how Lucifer approaches is like nearly the same thing Christ is going to come in. It will be so close that nobody would tell the difference between the two Christ.

 

[Christina]

Tell you what brother Mike if we are sucked out you can say I told you so ..If not remenber one thing above all always when the true Christ is here we are all in the twinkling of and eye changed 1Cr 15:52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. this is the 7th and last trump when Christ returns ots the only real second coming no matter what you see or hear what miracles you see as long as you are in a flesh body the true Christ is not here .... Thats your guarantee to not follow the fake. remember that and you will be one of those overcomers. The codes said I was right however ..LOL

 

[Brother Mike]

Jordan

Because Lucifer is so good at being the Pretender. He imitates Christ all the time. Even the End time events on how Lucifer approaches is like nearly the same thing Christ is going to come in. It will be so close that nobody would tell the difference between the two Christ.

I will be on the lookout, but the sheep know his voice. Bahaaa......

this is the 7th and last trump when Christ returns ots the only real second coming no matter what you see or hear what miracles you see as long as you are in a flesh body the true Christ is not here .... Thats your guarantee to not follow the fake. remember that and you will be one of those overcomers.

Got it, If I crave unhealthy food, and stay up late still playing video games, then Jesus has not showed up yet. I still in flesh.... If I don't crave those things anymore, then Jesus is here. I understand.Sounds great folks!!!!!! Will do........Now back to that bible code. I think I found my name in there somewhere.Jesus Is Lord.