To expose what is wrong I believe we must know what is wrong and/or be directed by God in what we are doing. I know what I believe, but I also know that in my own past, I have been found wrong, so unless I am certain, I proceed cautiously. God always knows. Do we always hear His voice on all of these things? If we are not led by the Holy Spirit, should we proceed?
Perhaps you know better than I and therefore never miss the mark in your warnings or corrections. That is between you and God.
I can and have pulled away from church groups during my years of serving God, because I believed they were wrong. But... still if the clean-up job was not mine to do, I left it alone when not directed otherwise by God.
I have been a Catholic and do not expect to be returning to them. I also brushed the Mormons closely when my brother married a Mormon and was a practicing Mormon for many years.
When I was in Wyoming, I had to review the work of a Mormon and I honestly tried hard to be fair. In my estimation, he was a good worker doing good but only average work. He was fired, I believe, in spite of my review, because he was a Mormon.
My own studies of Mormonism apparently do not set me as strongly against their beliefs as you, although I am, as you understand, certainly not a Mormon. I see them as no farther from my beliefs than those of many Protestant groups.
I learned long ago to not condemn a group simply because someone had called them a "cult". I have belonged to groups called cults by others. I strive to take people one at the time and leave any final judgments to God. I may not recommend them to someone, but I certainly won't condemn them simply because some or even many others do, or because I disagree with them.
To expose what is wrong we must indeed be able to know , discern between good and evil .
Salutations….
I know you are devoted to God….a good Christian…..A lot of good Christians started denominations that were wrong and a lot of Good Christians came up with a bunch of man-made sins. Why and what their intent was, it is hard to say….An improvement on God’s morality? Deception? Where they doing the same thing the Jews where doing? Making it harder to be right with God? Well those that came up with something over 70 man-made sins did make it harder on Christians….Serves as a distraction from what we should be doing and gives ammo for those that want to condemn and gossip about others and turn people away from Christianity.
Words mean things….You say…. its time we get back into ONLY the bible and read it again and be refreshed in it .
Do you really mean that? Most people don’t, just so you know.
It just a way to stand on a soap box and thump the Bible and proclaim, Look at me I am so holy! Then some are so unknowledgeable that they do not know what it means.
I have tried to find a way to word the Bible Only thought so as to make some sense of it. I don’t think there is…..We can try but it would be messy.
First off you would have to give up the requirement for wedding ceremonies. There is no requirement in the Bible for a wedding ceremony to be married, Old or New Testament. In fact the word wedding does not occur in the actual scriptures, Old or New Testament and wedding ceremonies where in fact a Pagan custom that the Protestant made mandatory to be married. Which I always say was a fantastic idea. But still Bible Only….no wedding ceremonies. The act of sex forms a marriage, just as it was in the beginning. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
Bible Only would allow people to have polygamous marriages and fathers to sell their daughters as sex slaves….concubinage. It would allow Christians to have slaves. The Bible never says all this should stop.
Does the Bible say that in 1500 years there would be an update ….as in the Protestant reform. How can they justify this if they are Bible Only.
Bible Only….are you going to be Jewish-Christian or Gentile Christian? Are you going to sacrifice animals?
The Bible was written during a very turbulent period. The thought was that they were living in the last days….no mention of years or centuries. The tribulations were to start soon and Christ was to return soon. The priority was to preach the Word and save souls before it was too late. This is one of the reasons that there is no focus on the family in the New Testament. Should we have less interest in the family in Christianity?
Is this the character and spirit we would want in Christianity?
NOOO! But it is the Bible…..The NT documents the first 65 years of Christianity…. Christianity continued on from there. No matter what, people pick and choose what they believe and proclaim they are Bible Only to look good in front of men.
To say that people need to get back to the Bible and study and pray and go to church and stand with other Christians and worship the Lord and sing hymns to Him….That is correct.
Bible Only is just a cliché. It is much more complicated than that.
that is what i mean . to just get back into the bible and learn it . as far as bible only
if anything contradicts , key word CONTRADICTS , that which was already written THEN FLEE IT .
as far as wedding ceremonies . You might want to read where JESUS turned the water into wine .
IT was at a wedding ceremony . as far as pologomy goes . read what paul writes . it was already
beginning to be taught that bishops and deacons should have ONE WIFE not more .
Now as far as pologomy goes , IT DID exist in the early church and in time it stopped .
I mean there were jews in there that had come to Christ and had already multiple wives .
You cant just put away the other wives . SO they did keep the wives they had .
BUT it was being and would end up being removed in time .
However if even today a jew had three wives and came TO JESUS , i would not TELL HIM to put away the other two .
though if a jew did come to JESUS and had a wife , BUT desired another , i would stop him and tell him not to do so .
Of course the laws of the land have pretty much already changed that so that wont be a problem in most cases .
As far as slaves , they were in no way treated like slaves in america and etc .
The jews were warned to treat their servants GOOD . and even at the end of the sixth year or at the year of release
had to release a jewsih servant . but GOD even warned them IF you knock out the tooth of your servant
YE shall repay him for his tooth . THEIR slaves were in no way treated like the american colonies treated theirs .
They , as in america , treated theirs like dirt , harsh and cruel and DID NOT KNOW GOD at all .
that is a fact . as far as servants , onesimus had been a servant himself . he wasnt walking around in chains
saying yesah massah . many had servants and them servants were treated darn good too ,
THE CHURCH leaders , mainly paul, warned those who had servants to treat them as BRETHREN
DIDNT HE . so again the concept of slavery in the bible was a far cry different than in america .
The more we read that bible , i tell us all the far better off we gonna be and have been for doing so .
now walking a dog on a leash was not mentioned in the bible , but that dont mean its sin to do it .
HOWEVER if what one does do is SIN is contrary to what was written , IT NEEDS TO BE ASAP GREASE LIGHTING
FAST corrected within the church . ALL false places and false leaders MUST BE EXPOSED asap fast .
ALL sin and error when seen or noted within the church must be ASAP CORRECTED GREASED LIGHTNING FAST .
cause leaven loveth to LEAVEN . and tis about time we learn THEIR APPROACH , THEIR PATTERN they TUAGHT TO THE CHURCH .
