Are the 10 Commandments the Law of Moses?

[TopherNelson]

Zeke, you are neither right nor are you wrong.

HTE,

Can you find one Scripture, from the OT or the NT, that states that the Ten Commandments or the Law of Moses was ever given to NT believers or even any one other than the Hebrews beginning with Moses and afterwards? If you can find it, please share it, I need to know.

Zeke25

I come not to abolish the laws but to fulfill it.

 

[UppsalaDragby]

I come not to abolish the laws but to fulfill it.

So did Jesus fulfill the law or not?

In Romans 7:1-6 the apostle Paul gives a perfect example of how the death of Christ not only fulfills the law for us, but does so without abolishing it. So what is your point?

The conclusion that Paul draws from this is that we have been "released from the law".

What is you conclusion?

 

[StanJ]

So did Jesus fulfill the law or not?

In Romans 7:1-6 the apostle Paul gives a perfect example of how the death of Christ not only fulfills the law for us, but does so without abolishing it. So what is your point?

The conclusion that Paul draws from this is that we have been "released from the law".

What is you conclusion?

I agree. from the Mosaic or written law, but not from God's universal laws.

 

[zeke25]

Zeke, you are neither right nor are you wrong.

I come not to abolish the laws but to fulfill it.

TopherNelson,

The Scriptures agree with that which I teach. Christ fulfilled the Law. In other words, He met all the requirements of the Law, for all time, everywhere, for all eternity. Therefore, no one has to meet those requirements ever again - it has been done for us by our Lord and Savior. So, your Scripture does not require us to keep the Law, He frees us from the Law. That's what Christ meant on the cross when He said, "It is finished." He accomplished everything He came to do, including fulfilling the Law and nailing its requirements to His tree. Peter said it plainly, "Why saddle the Gentiles with a Law that we ourselves could never keep?" But Christ could, and He did. It is done, It is finished. It has been taken away. But there are those who cannot believe, who refuse to believe, that the gospel of Christ is that simple and easy. The hard part is believing it is that simple. He loves you, He loves me. It is finished. He holds me in the palm of His hand, I cannot fail. And the same is true for all those who accept His sacrifice and apply it to themselves. Some refuse to do so. It is there for the grasping, but some do not exercise the faith given to them by the Holy Spirit and they will not reach out and take that which has been freely provided for them. It is sad indeed.

Zeke25

 

[Keeth]

Concerning the OP.

[SIZE=12pt]Exod 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my Sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God. 2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. 3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them;[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths,and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Ezek 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. 13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my Sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them. 14 But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, in whose sight I brought them out. 15 Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, flowing with milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands; 16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols. 17 Nevertheless mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did I make an end of them in the wilderness. 18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols: 19 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; 20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. 21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness. 22 Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth. 23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries; 24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Ezek 23:38 Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Ezek 44:23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. 24 And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Exod 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws? 29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Exod 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Lev 26:3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; 4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Num 15:40 That ye may remember, and do all my commandments, and be holy unto your God. 41 I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: I am the LORD your God.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Deut 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Deut 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever![/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Deut 11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandmentswhich I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul, 14 That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil. 15 And I will send grass in thy fields for thy cattle, that thou mayest eat and be full.[/SIZE]

 

[zeke25]

Concerning the OP.

[SIZE=12pt]Exod 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my Sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God. 2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. 3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments,[/SIZE] and do them;

[SIZE=12pt]Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths,and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Ezek 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. 13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my Sabbaths[/SIZE] they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them. 14 But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, in whose sight I brought them out. 15 Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, flowing with milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands; 16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols. 17 Nevertheless mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did I make an end of them in the wilderness. 18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols: 19 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; 20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. 21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness. 22 Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth. 23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries; 24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols.

[SIZE=12pt]Ezek 23:38 Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Ezek 44:23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. 24 And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Exod 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws? 29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Exod 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:[/SIZE] in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

[SIZE=12pt]Lev 26:3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; 4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Num 15:40 That ye may remember, and do all my commandments, and be holy unto your God. 41 I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: I am the LORD your God.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Deut 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Deut 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever![/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Deut 11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandmentswhich I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul, 14 That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil. 15 And I will send grass in thy fields for thy cattle, that thou mayest eat and be full.[/SIZE]

Keeth,

I'm glad you agree that the sabbath was only given to the Hebrews.

Zeke25

 

[Keeth]

Keeth,

I'm glad you agree that the sabbath was only given to the Hebrews.

Zeke25

Yes, the Jews were God's proclaimed people of the old covenant, therefore they were to keep His Sabbath. True Christians of today have been graffed into the Israel of God, and will also keep God's Sabbath. Traditional "Christians" of today keep the man made tradition of Sunday. They also refuse that they have been graffed into the tree, which is Christ, and maintain a separation between Jew and Gentile which Christ came to abolish. It is no wonder that they do not keep God's Sabbath, for they belevie a false gospel, and maintian the separation Christ came to abolish. They belevie in one gospel and law for the Jews, and another gospel and law for the Gentiles. They are deceived. They ignore the commandments of God, that they might uphold the traditions of man.

Mt 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Are you not doing the same? Telling all they need not keep the fourth commandment, while supporting and no doubt teaching that all should observe the man made tradition of Sunday sacredness?

 

[zeke25]

Yes, the Jews were God's proclaimed people of the old covenant, therefore they were to keep His Sabbath. True Christians of today have been graffed into the Israel of God, and will also keep God's Sabbath. Traditional "Christians" of today keep the man made tradition of Sunday. They also refuse that they have been graffed into the tree, which is Christ, and maintain a separation between Jew and Gentile which Christ came to abolish. It is no wonder that they do not keep God's Sabbath, for they belevie a false gospel, and maintian the separation Christ came to abolish. They belevie in one gospel and law for the Jews, and another gospel and law for the Gentiles. They are deceived. They ignore the commandments of God, that they might uphold the traditions of man.

Mt 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Are you not doing the same? Telling all they need not keep the fourth commandment, while supporting and no doubt teaching that all should observe the man made tradition of Sunday sacredness?

Keeth,

Keeth said: True Christians of today have been graffed into the Israel of God, and will also keep God's Sabbath.

Zeke's response: Please show me a Scripture that says I've been grafted into Israel. My Bible says I've saved as a child of promise through Isaac. Galatians 4:28 KJV, "Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise."



Keeth: It is no wonder that they do not keep God's Sabbath, for they belevie a false gospel, and maintian the separation Christ came to abolish. They belevie in one gospel and law for the Jews, and another gospel and law for the Gentiles. They are deceived. They ignore the commandments of God, that they might uphold the traditions of man.

Zeke: So, now you persecute me. You say I don't keep the Sabbath, that I believe a false gospel, that I separate that which Christ wants brought together, that I believe in one gospel and law for the Jews and another gospel and law for the Gentiles, that I am deceived, that I uphold the traditions of man. Boy, if that's not persecution, then I don't know what is. But you've got it all messed up. I believe in one gospel for all and I've entered into the sabbath rest of God. Let's continue in Galatians after verse 28 and see who you are.

Galatians 4:29-31 KJV, "29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
So, you must be the child of the bondwoman born after the flesh and are persecuting me who was born after the Spirit. You are preaching the gospel of man, not the gospel of God and you have lost your inheritance.

And once again I ask: What do you think of Paul and do you think we should follow his teachings?

Zeke25

 

[Axehead]

Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Found in heaven, was not the law of Moses, but the Ten Commandments (the testimony). What other clear, and forceful illustrations must be given that the law of God, the Ten Commandments, is to be obeyed?

The book of the law, which the Bible calls the Law of Moses, was not in the ark, but the tables of the covenant (tables of testimony) were contained in God's Ark within heaven (not just on earth). Our government here on earth has laws that must be obeyed, and yet God's law is abolished because we have escaped the punishment for sin? This is not the Gospel message. It is not freedom from law, but freedom from sin. And sin is the transgression of the law. We are freed from the slavery of sin, causing us to break God's law. And it is Christ that frees us from sin, not the law written upon the tables of stone -- which very law was written on our hearts.

Found in heaven is Jesus Christ.

Yes, there are laws on earth and there are penalties if you break them. What is the penalty for not keeping the Sabbath, for committing adultery. Don't tell me that Christ freed us from the penalty but not from the law for there is no such thing as law with penalty. If no penalty, then you are under no law. Hmmm, that sounds like the New Testament.

Rom_6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Rom_7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Rom_7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Rom_8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Gal_5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Christianity is not about the 10 commandments, it is about Jesus Christ, a person (not a dogma) and you being in fellowship with Him (abiding in Him).

 

[pom2014]

Then why all the handwringing and condemnation by "christian" organizations and "christians" when government officials remove God's ten commandments out of public buildings, court houses etc?: If what you say is correct then they are obsolete, then what's the problem? Could it be thats why society is in such a mess? I am under the impression God's law the ten commandments are written on our hearts and minds, if we are true followers and believers in God and His word..Jer 31(33) Heb 8 and Heb 10...

Remember always Salvation is through the Son of God, His grace and commandments (which are written on the hearts and minds of true believers), and NOT the sungod/satan and his days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origin.

There is handwringing and gnashing of teeth because when you take away their tradition people get mad.

Their tradition is more important than their Kings command. That is the way of the Levite

 

[Axehead]

Then why all the handwringing and condemnation by "christian" organizations and "christians" when government officials remove God's ten commandments out of public buildings, court houses etc?: If what you say is correct then they are obsolete, then what's the problem? Could it be thats why society is in such a mess? I am under the impression God's law the ten commandments are written on our hearts and minds, if we are true followers and believers in God and His word..Jer 31(33) Heb 8 and Heb 10...

Remember always Salvation is through the Son of God, His grace and commandments (which are written on the hearts and minds of true believers), and NOT the sungod/satan and his days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origin.

Handwringing because they are misguided and ill-informed. Christian religious organizations mix the OT Law with NT grace and have created a hybrid belief system that does not give life and only produces introspection and condemnation.

Christianity is not a belief-system, it is Jesus Christ.

Throw away your codified belief-systems and return to the Lord with all your heart.

 

[heretoeternity]

It is unfortunate the followers of the pagan Roman system which says God ten commandments are not longer in effect, do not read their Bibles, and the verses in context...they follow the pagan days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, but do not know why they follow these non Biblical days...they criticize those who follow God's commandments especially the fourth "remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy"....They should really review what spirit they are following, because it sure is not the spirit of God. If it was they would want to follow His commandmentswith...
These followers of pagan rome cannot find one scripture to support their following of sunday, dec 25th and easter....sounds like the antichrist is working overtime within them.

 

[Josho]

Out of the 10 commandments i don't think 1 of of them was changed in the New Testament, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Barrd]

Heretoeternity

It seems to me it’s you who is doing the “cutting and pasting”. For example, the last paragraph of your posts almost contains the same words.

If Jesus’ birthday is not on Dec. 25th, or if His Resurrection is not on Easter, and if Sunday (1st Day of the Week) is not the day of worship, as you’ve claimed, is it a sin to celebrate these events anyway on those particular days and if so, can you give Scripture references?

I know why you are so adamant as to make the Ten Commandments especially important because your church still observes the Seventh Day Sabbath, and because your church’s founder, Ellen G. White seeing a vision of a halo around the fourth commandment thereby, making the fourth commandment seem more important than the rest of the commandments.

In post #29, you said and I quote: “seems the false teachings of mainstream “Christianity” has brainwashed the majority of professing “Christians”…etc. Without knowing it, I do believe it was yourself you were speaking of, or do you consider yourself a Christian? A Christian is someone “of Christ’s”.

Jesus said, ‘My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me’. John 10:27

You do not know Jesus, you do not follow Him, nor can you hear His voice. If you did you would have learned that He changed the Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to the 1st Day of the Week Sabbath Worship, and you would not have said that "Christians" have been brainwashed!

The first century believers had it correct to worship on the 1st Day of the Week! Paul began to preach in the Synagogues on the 1st Day of the Week in the Book of Acts. But this is not the book where the Seventh Day Sabbath Worship was changed to the 1st Day of the Week Sabbath Worship (Sunday Sabbath) can be found.

Have you or your denomination ever studied and understood the correlation between the Sabbath Rest and the Seventh Day Sabbath, or the man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath in Numbers 15:32-36 and God told Moses to stone him to death?

Do you or your denomination really have any idea the severity and consequences of the Seventh Day Sabbath?

I will reserve from giving the scripture text that points to the change from the Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to the 1st Day of the Week Sabbath Worship, until I learn which subjects above you will reply to, preferably all.

To God Be The Glory

Something you said in this post made me intensely curious:

"He changed the Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to the 1st Day of the Week Sabbath Worship"

Let me get this straight...are you saying that Jesus changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday? Could you show me where, in the Bible, Jesus made such a change? I can't find any reference to that in mine...maybe I missed it. I'm not perfect, after all...

Now, I am not SDA...I'm a Baptist. But I do rest on the Sabbath, as does my entire household, according to the fourth commandment...()although we don't add in all the Mosaic stuff about no fire, etc.) We have found it to be a good thing for our family. Are we wrong, then?

EDIT:
I'm not actually a Baptist in that I don't agree with everything the Baptist church teaches...however, I am a member of a Baptist church, mainly because I like the people in that church.

 

[Joyful]

The Ten is both Moses and Jesus law.

Jesus summarized the ten in two; love God and love one another.

Jesus explained how to love God and love one another in great detail in His gospels.

Jesus upgraded moral law. E.g., Jesus says to love your enemy. Moses says "eye for eye".

 

[Barrd]

The Ten Commandments were written by God, Himself, on tablets of stone...they are permanent.
The law of Moses was written by Moses. It is not permanent.
Simple.

 

[heretoeternity]

Heretoeternity

It seems to me it’s you who is doing the “cutting and pasting”. For example, the last paragraph of your posts almost contains the same words.





Why don't you give us scriptural reference where God commanded, and sanctified any one of these days sunday, dec 25th and easter? I will give you a clue...nowhere in the Bible....these false teachings days are from the pagan roman system, and their god..the sungod/satan...

Remember always salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments and NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origin.

If Jesus’ birthday is not on Dec. 25th, or if His Resurrection is not on Easter, and if Sunday (1st Day of the Week) is not the day of worship, as you’ve claimed, is it a sin to celebrate these events anyway on those particular days and if so, can you give Scripture references?

I know why you are so adamant as to make the Ten Commandments especially important because your church still observes the Seventh Day Sabbath, and because your church’s founder, Ellen G. White seeing a vision of a halo around the fourth commandment thereby, making the fourth commandment seem more important than the rest of the commandments.

In post #29, you said and I quote: “seems the false teachings of mainstream “Christianity” has brainwashed the majority of professing “Christians”…etc. Without knowing it, I do believe it was yourself you were speaking of, or do you consider yourself a Christian? A Christian is someone “of Christ’s”.

Jesus said, ‘My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me’. John 10:27

You do not know Jesus, you do not follow Him, nor can you hear His voice. If you did you would have learned that He changed the Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to the 1st Day of the Week Sabbath Worship, and you would not have said that "Christians" have been brainwashed!

The first century believers had it correct to worship on the 1st Day of the Week! Paul began to preach in the Synagogues on the 1st Day of the Week in the Book of Acts. But this is not the book where the Seventh Day Sabbath Worship was changed to the 1st Day of the Week Sabbath Worship (Sunday Sabbath) can be found.

Have you or your denomination ever studied and understood the correlation between the Sabbath Rest and the Seventh Day Sabbath, or the man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath in Numbers 15:32-36 and God told Moses to stone him to death?

Do you or your denomination really have any idea the severity and consequences of the Seventh Day Sabbath?

I will reserve from giving the scripture text that points to the change from the Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to the 1st Day of the Week Sabbath Worship, until I learn which subjects above you will reply to, preferably all.

To God Be The Glory