Are You Free From The Law?

[DNB]

2 Peter 3:16 King James Version (KJV)

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


Why did you edit my post by making it more difficult to read? We are sure you aware that having spaces between sentences on computer makes it easier to read.

@DNB, you appear to be a Deceiver!

You wrest Paul's writings and, apparently, you have not understood my explanation.

I abbreviated it just to summarize, no false representation intended.
I just think that both your brief queries, and explanation of things, are deceitful. Questions as such, require explanation, because theology is a big and diverse subject matter. It's like you're trying to be difficult, by remaining cryptic in everything that you ask. Which is usually a sign that you don't really understand what you're talking about.

 

[Truther]

The Mosaic law is no longer valid, but the Ten Commandments always are, plus Jesus gave us fifty additional commandments, neither should we grieve the Holy Spirit and we should always obey the laws of those who rule over us.
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The 10 commandments are still around to condemn sinners and lead them to Jesus Christ, then after being born again, they drop off to then cause us be Spirit led per 2 Cor 3.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Matthew 16:24 King James Version (KJV)

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

You can do this all you want

your still guilty according to the law.
Many people do this and have yet had their sin issue resolved. That will do them no good

 

[Heart2Soul]

The Ten Commandments is the Mosaic Law.

The Ten Commandments are God's Laws.
Written by the hand of God. The Mosaic Laws were written by Moses.

 

[Base12]

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death

This is speaking of a Future Promise.

 

[Base12]

40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?

Without = Macrocosm
Within = Microcosm

Luke 17:21
"Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you"

 

[Episkopos]

This is speaking of a Future Promise.

No, that is what entering into Christ does. It's funny how so many people get their tenses wrong. What IS in the future is denoting what salvation or not people will have been given.

 

[Renniks]

Gentiles must be Circumcised to be Saved!

The Bible says the opposite. Read Galatians.

 

[mjrhealth]

The 10 commandments are still around to condemn sinners and lead them to Jesus Christ, then after being born again, they drop off to then cause us be Spirit led per 2 Cor 3.

Actually that is not true, the gentiles where and are still not under the law, that didnt change and has never changed, and where theer is no law,

Rom_4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Gentiles, greeks never under teh "old" covenant.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Romans 8:1-2 King James Version (KJV)

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


Do you think you are free from the Law? How can you be free from the Law when you cannot stop Sinning?

The reality is that we are all going to face the Judgment. The Scripture is clear concerning all of us: "It is appointed for man once to die, and after that the Judgment" (Hebrews 9:27), and "We must all give an account to God" (Hebrews 4:13), and "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad" (2 Corinthians 5:10).

Because no one has seen the Father at any time because He is a Spirit, then the Person in from of whom we are to appear is Jesus Christ. He will be the One who will judge the living and the dead, both converted and unconverted.

The basis on which every person, including you and me, will be the Ten Commandments which are the foundation of God's moral law. So we will all be judged on it, not all the components of the Mosaic Law which are basically extensions of the Commandments.

So, we will be judged on these basic questions. Have we:
* not loved God with all our hearts, minds and strength
* had imaginary images of God that makes us comfortable in our sins (idolatry)
* told lies
* taken anything that does not belong to us
* used God's name as a curse word
* looked at a person with lust or viewed pornography
* dishonoured our parents
* been jealous or envious because others have what we want

Our conscience will immediately tell us that we are all guilty of breaking many if not all the Ten Commandments and will be found guilty at the Judgment, because "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. There is none righteous, no, not one" (Romans 3:10,23).

So, my question to our readers: How are we going to avoid sentence being passed on us to be sent to God's eternal "prison" without the possibility of parole?

 

[DNB]

Romans 7:23 King James Version (KJV)

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Therefore, if you continue to Sin and have the inclination to Sin, you remain under the Law.

Stop your nonsense Elihoenai. Paul made this statement to show exactly the reason why Christ saves us. Paul's point was that even though we still sin, and cannot escape the corporeal essence that we have, God by his grace, absolves us from the demise that we're in, i.e. flesh at enmity with the spirit - our inability to stop sinning.
Obviously, this is contingent on one's faith in the atoning efficacy of Christ's obedience.
But still, your whole premise is incorrect, and your proof-text is entirely antithetical to the point that you're trying to make.
For, Christ saves sinners.

Willfully sinning, is entirely different, that's a denial of John's call to repentance, the prerequisite for faith in Christ. But you have not made this distinction, so it appears that your understanding is deficient?

 

[Truther]

Actually that is not true, the gentiles where and are still not under the law, that didnt change and has never changed, and where theer is no law,

Rom_4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Gentiles, greeks never under teh "old" covenant.

You just made sinner gentiles guiltless.
No Law, no sin.

Romans 2 is speaking of the written Law of Moses.
Romans 3 says the Gentiles are also under the Law....


19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

 

[mjrhealth]

You just made sinner gentiles guiltless.
No Law, no sin.

Romans 2 is speaking of the written Law of Moses.
Romans 3 says the Gentiles are also under the Law....


19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

You dont get it do you, until the law that Moses bought in, there was always sin, what we didnt have was judgement, what is it you cannot understand, A country without laws has no right to condemn a man for his deeds, a country with laws does, the problem is, without condemnation. the Law, Christ could never have gone to the Cross and never being able to Atone for our sins and we would have being permanently separated from God.

Now we have Love Grace and faith, if you want to be found guilty, go for the law, there are many sitting waiting to be condemend by it, why Ill never know.

 

[Elihoenai]

Do you sacrifice animals?

The Samaritans have been doing animal sacrifice and Jews in Israel are reviving the practice.

Samaritan Passover Samaria 2010

Ancient Animal Sacrifice Ritual Makes a Modern Comeback

 

[Cooper]

As you said, Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ, being a Jew, practised the Law. Therefore, to be in Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ you must practise the Law.

Gentiles must be Circumcised to be Saved! Is the United States a Jewish Nation, given that they are a Circumcised Nation?


Prevalence of circumcision

"...United States

During the 2000s, the prevalence of circumcision in men aged 14–59 differed by race: 91 percent of white men, 76 percent of black men, and 44 percent of Hispanic men were circumcised, according to data in Mayo Clinic Proceedings...."

Prevalence of circumcision - Wikipedia

Jewish law is for Jews.
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[Cooper]

Luke 11:39-40 King James Version (KJV)

39 And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.

40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?


Yeshua/Jesus is teaching the Pharisees that his doings are for Elohim/God.

Jesus is telling the Pharisees, that despite their outward appearance, they have wicked hearts.
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[Elihoenai]

No, that's the law of God. Direct from His hand. The law of Moses was based on a temple holiness...an outer holiness. Being in Christ means a true holiness that makes the old kind obsolete. The law of Moses is but a shadow of the real holiness.

1 Chronicles 23:14 King James Version (KJV)

14 Now concerning Moses the man of God, his sons were named of the tribe of Levi.


The Law of Moses is the Law of Elohim/God.

 

[Elihoenai]

Correct. I am a gentile.
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Don't you believe in British Israelism?

 

[Cooper]

Matthew 5:48 King James Version (KJV)

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


That is a broken link that you posted.

We only listen to Yeshua/Jesus and totally reject lying Satanist. You must be Sinless and Perfect.

Jesus is talking about loving our enemies. True love never harms. Someone who never harms another, (sin is harmful), in thought or deed is indeed perfect.
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[Eternally Grateful]

The Ten Commandments are God's Laws.
Written by the hand of God. The Mosaic Laws were written by Moses.

all of the law moses wrote was given to him by God himself

the ten commands are a part of that law.

Which by the way, are included in moses command that they were to confirm an oath to obey every word, failure to do so would bring them under a curse.

which is why paul said in gal 3 whoever is under the law is under a curse, because cursed is the one who does not obey every word (perfection)

the law was given to expose sin.. Not teach us how to not sin..

if you look at the law and commands and think you keep it. Something is wrong.